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Preston are carlton in drag. The sooner the vfl step in re name them carlton seconds charge them the full license fee and end papal's circus the better.

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Spot on, VFA - couldn't agree with you more on this one.

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[quote]Northern Blues President Stephen Papal believes the Carlton-Northern Blues relationship couldn’t have moved in more unified direction than right now, with the VFL side unveiling their new jumper for the 2015 season on Saturday.

In a move to further strengthen the VFL-AFL alignment, the Northern Blues will modify their jumper to remove the ‘Northern’ label across the trunk to be replaced by new retro Carlton monogram.

The Northern Blues will part ways with the red clash jumper, instead moving to the similar white-on-navy, navy-on-white clash strip adopted by Carlton for ‘away’ matches.

President Papal said the agreement was made through the off-season after promising conversations with Carlton, led by new CEO Steven Trigg.

“You can’t push and promote two brands to corporates, members and the fans, this move was made to market one brand,” Papal said.

“The move has been made with respect to our history, but we feel this move with Carlton appeases the masses yet still represents our commitment to the north and northern suburbs in the VFL.”

With the extinction of the red jumper, Papal said while there will be criticism toward the club’s identity, respect will still be paid to the history of the Preston Football Club.

“The PFC on the jumper’s neck will remain, as will the Bullants symbol on the inside of the player’s collars as they run out,” Papal said.

“We aim to roll out a heritage round where we will play in the original Preston Football Club uniform, if not this year, then definitely in 2016.

“We aren’t and will forever refuse to ignore the true origins of this football club, for which we are grateful.”

While the Northern Blues debuted the new navy jumper in their Round 1 clash against Williamstown at Ikon Park on Saturday, before flaunting the new away clash strip during this Saturday's Round 2 ANZAC Day clash against Port Melbourne at North Port Oval.
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I had a read through the above release on the Bullants website..

There are a few comments that I find hard to fathom..
"a more unified direction"? I can't see that direction going anywhere but following behind carlton. Surely the jumper design of a "new retro Calrton monogram" is ridiculous. The letters stand for Carlton Football Club. Its identity fraud!

There are some other things that seem like an affront to long time Preston supporters. "The extinction of the red jumper" being loss of the clubs traditional colours is another link to the clubs identity and history being lost.

The club now plays (some) home games at Carlton, wears Carlton colours, has adopted the CFC monogram, has the moniker 'Blues'. Does the club still sing its traditional song? I don't know the answer to that.

The promising conversations with Carlton and wanting to market one 'brand' is illogical. There are (or were) two clubs, two identities, two histories. He says you can't promote two brands to corporates.. Maybe not, but that is for the Preston Football Club to go out and promote and market itself.


Source: http://northernbluesfc.com.au/news/697-nbfc-news-new-jumper-unveiled.html

The president says "this move has been made with respect to our history". How?







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At least we can revel in Carlton seniors going like shit and it aint going to get any better for them for a VERY long time as the have one of the worst lists going around.A bit of karma for their arrogance in the past.The seconds Pres is obviosly a Carlton plant and suckhole.

This jumper BS makes the VFL look weak and stupid!

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Its as simple as this...A club has been taken over by raider and absorber into the Corporation.

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Hope Port Melbourne gives them (CARLTON SECONDS) a hiding tomorrow.
All valid points NorthPort.

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[quote=NorthPort]

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Northern Blues President Stephen Papal believes the Carlton-Northern Blues relationship couldn’t have moved in more unified direction than right now, with the VFL side unveiling their new jumper for the 2015 season on Saturday.

In a move to further strengthen the VFL-AFL alignment, the Northern Blues will modify their jumper to remove the ‘Northern’ label across the trunk to be replaced by new retro Carlton monogram.

The Northern Blues will part ways with the red clash jumper, instead moving to the similar white-on-navy, navy-on-white clash strip adopted by Carlton for ‘away’ matches.

President Papal said the agreement was made through the off-season after promising conversations with Carlton, led by new CEO Steven Trigg.

“You can’t push and promote two brands to corporates, members and the fans, this move was made to market one brand,” Papal said.

“The move has been made with respect to our history, but we feel this move with Carlton appeases the masses yet still represents our commitment to the north and northern suburbs in the VFL.”

With the extinction of the red jumper, Papal said while there will be criticism toward the club’s identity, respect will still be paid to the history of the Preston Football Club.

“The PFC on the jumper’s neck will remain, as will the Bullants symbol on the inside of the player’s collars as they run out,” Papal said.

“We aim to roll out a heritage round where we will play in the original Preston Football Club uniform, if not this year, then definitely in 2016.

“We aren’t and will forever refuse to ignore the true origins of this football club, for which we are grateful.”

While the Northern Blues debuted the new navy jumper in their Round 1 clash against Williamstown at Ikon Park on Saturday, before flaunting the new away clash strip during this Saturday's Round 2 ANZAC Day clash against Port Melbourne at North Port Oval.

I had a read through the above release on the Bullants website..

There are a few comments that I find hard to fathom..
"a more unified direction"? I can't see that direction going anywhere but following behind carlton. Surely the jumper design of a "new retro Calrton monogram" is ridiculous. The letters stand for Carlton Football Club. Its identity fraud!

There are some other things that seem like an affront to long time Preston supporters. "The extinction of the red jumper" being loss of the clubs traditional colours is another link to the clubs identity and history being lost.

The club now plays (some) home games at Carlton, wears Carlton colours, has adopted the CFC monogram, has the moniker 'Blues'. Does the club still sing its traditional song? I don't know the answer to that.

The promising conversations with Carlton and wanting to market one 'brand' is illogical. There are (or were) two clubs, two identities, two histories. He says you can't promote two brands to corporates.. Maybe not, but that is for the Preston Football Club to go out and promote and market itself.


Source: http://northernbluesfc.com.au/news/697-nbfc-news-new-jumper-unveiled.html

The president says "this move has been made with respect to our history". How?

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NorthPort very valid points.
I nearly spewed when I read that pile of crap.
All they are doing is trying to justify a disgraceful decision to exterminate the once great Preston Football Club, a decision that they will have to live with the rest of their lives. Not sure how they sleep at night.
Remember the old adage "If you lay down with dogs.....You get fleas".

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As a Box Hill supporter, I'm not really in a position to have a go at others, but I will say this.

Of course, the decision is a terrible insult to every supporter of the once great Preston Bullants. Unfortunately, that means that only about 30 people have been insulted. Therein lies the terrible problem that faces the once proud V.F.A. Clubs. It's 20 years this year since the V.F.A. died.

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[quote=Mustang]

As a Box Hill supporter, I'm not really in a position to have a go at others, but I will say this.

Of course, the decision is a terrible insult to every supporter of the once great Preston Bullants. Unfortunately, that means that only about 30 people have been insulted. Therein lies the terrible problem that faces the once proud V.F.A. Clubs. It's 20 years this year since the V.F.A. died.

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Preston has been dead for a long time but why tell lies about what the club really is - the Carlton Seconds just to save money.
Im very glad that Sandy are going it alone and with Port, Willy,Coburg and Frankston there will be a core of Ex VFA sides.
It would be nice to see Werribee ,Casey and North Ballarat join the standalone side also one day.

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North Ballarat will be stand alone next year. Sandy the following year.
Would be great to see Coburg make finals this year. Only one round in but they showed enough to improve further on last year and could sneak into the eight with further improvement.

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[quote=Mustang]

As a Box Hill supporter, I'm not really in a position to have a go at others, but I will say this.

Of course, the decision is a terrible insult to every supporter of the once great Preston Bullants. Unfortunately, that means that only about 30 people have been insulted. Therein lies the terrible problem that faces the once proud V.F.A. Clubs. It's 20 years this year since the V.F.A. died.

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Mustang, I'm interested in your take about what I said on-air last Saturday (and Hoops wasn't happy).

I said "After the events of Last Year's Grand Final (Cyril on the bench), let's stop pretending, this is not Box Hill, let's call them the Eastern Hawks or Hawthorn reserves".

My angle was, once a club stops making (or has the ability to make) independent decisions, they are no longer that club they claim to be.

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