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New VFL with an AFL Reserves competition

With a new AFL Reserves competition being planned by some in the football industry some may think that the future doesn't look bright for the clubs of the former VFA. However, a new VFL without the AFL Reserves would create a competition in which those teams return to where they were. As has been done by the VFL when they took over the VFA in 1995, clubs where given to a Under 18's zone, creating what can now be used to create a competition.

The problem that presents itself is that there is nine VFL clubs to eight Under 18's zones in the metro area. However this could be changed by redrawing the eight zones to create a ninth zone.

So a twelve team competition can be created, the teams would be - and the Under 18's zones they would represent:

Ballarat Rebels - Representing GWV Rebels

Bendigo Pioneers - Representing Bendigo Pioneers

Box Hill Mustangs - Representing Eastern Ranges

Casey Stingrays - Representing Dandenong Stingrays

Coburg Cannons - Representing Calder Cannons

Frankston Dolphins - Representing a new Mornington Peninsula and Phillip Island zone

Gippsland Power - Representing Gippsland Power

Port Melbourne Borough - Representing Oakleigh Chargers

Preston Bullants - Representing Northern Knights

Sandringham Zebras - Representing Sandringham Dragons

Werribee Tigers - Representing Geelong Falcons

Williamstown Seagulls - Representing Western Jets

Wally from Will...
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Coburg CANNONS???? I don't think so Wiz, but your theory about a new comp without the AFL clubs has some merit, would it include the resurrection of the VFL Magoos?? Might need some financial input from the AFL to get Bendigo, Box Hill and Preston  up and running again.

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Paul Amy has reported that the AFL has written to all the State leagues, assuring them the story about the AFL reserves league reforming is unfounded, and is not on the agenda.

wizardwaffle
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What is wrong with the Coburg Cannons? What I was trying to do is remove the common used nicknames of clubs by both VFL and AFL clubs, like the VFA did with jumpers many years ago. Also the Cannons have been a powerful Under 18's club winning six premierships in 25 years of the competition.

If a reserves competition was asked for it could be organised, I say most likely with the metro clubs only. After the AFL seconds leave, as a result of clubs wanting the seperate reserves competition, the AFL will have to help and this can be done by associating the VFL clubs with the Under 18's clubs. Clubs could be still separate like Dandenong Stingrays and Casey are now are, or be close to one club like Sandringham Dragons and Zebras are.

The joining of Coburg Football Club and the Calder Cannons could create a new state league super team, bringing the football club atmosphere out to where the people live in the outer northern suburbs.

Saying that the AFL reserves isn't coming is what the AFL is saying now. But when the AFL clubs get behind the idea there will be change. AFL clubs don't want to stay in competitions like the VFL or SANFL and the clubs there don't want them either. Looking at a VFL without the AFL clubs would look like a problem, but by looking at it this way it could see the recreation of clubs like Preston.

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There are a couple of Coburg supporters on here, maybe they have an opinion about being rebranded the Cannons, personally i don't like it and prefer the Lions as they have always been known, except for the Richmond alignment period. And why wouldn't you rebrand Werribee as something else if you are going down that track?

A national AFL Reserves competition would be enormously expensive with flying players & support staff all over the country & accommodating them, plus with the AFL looking to bed down the AFLW and AFLX I can't see it happening for quite some time if at all.

As for resurrecting Preston, they only got 30 people to attend the meeting which decided on the club being rebranded the Northern Blues so I wonder just how much interest and passion there would be for that idea.

 

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Just curious as to why the AFL clubs don't want to keep playing their 2's in the VFL ? I think that they would acknowledge that they get the benefit of playing in a high standard competition and saves them a lot of money, resources and travel.

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I think a lot of them do, from what I'm told the push for a reserves comp comes mostly from SA and north of the Murray. 

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In sanfl the locals and traditional supporters hate the crows in their comp and would love to see the back end of them. Great to see werribee put in a good performance at torquay yesterday and no reason why all the vfl standalone teams won't do well. Will we see the tassie devils back in the vfl comp down the track ? That is one thing that has been bought up when Mclaughlin paid a visit to the Apple Isle.

wizardwaffle
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The reserve grade teams of AFL clubs in state competitions don't all ways try their best to beat their opposition, it is sometimes to create something to defeat an AFL team they may be playing in the future. Also the standard of some state competition sides isn't what the AFL sides want.

The clubs of the SANFL and the WAFL want to see nine or eight teams going at each other, trying to beat the opposition each week. They don't want to face a AFL reserves team that may be trying something and filled with players wanting to go up to the AFL team.

The AFL may not want to have a reserves competition at the moment but the state competitions and the AFL clubs themselves will ask for it. What I tried to create here was a new VFL, a competition for the current VFL sides to play in. To give the competition a structure I based it on the Victorian Under 18's competition, with the VFL teams becoming associated clubs to the Under 18's clubs.

With Preston and having only 30 people interested in the club, I would look at the Northern Knights putting together a team to represent their area in the VFL. Giving the club the Preston name allows the name to continue on, kept the history of the side going and insurer that the past is honoured by the future of the game. There may have been only 30 people interested in the club against Carlton taking it over but there will be more if your not going up against a big club like Carlton and your saving the history of the club. We could end up with something like the picture below.

 

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Werribee wildcats no thanks. Sounds like an American basketball team.

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The Werribee Falcons, Werribee Wildcats and Coburg pictures where left here because I had to go to the football.

The Werribee Falcons show what I could have named Werribee to be like the Coburg Cannons. However I have used the Werribee Wildcats name before, and what are Tigers? They are Wildcats. Instead I could go for the Werribee Bees or WerriBEES. as seen in the attached picture.

The Coburg picture shows what I could have put to save the anti-Cannons arguments.

The main thing is to see that a competition is kept around the allows clubs like Port Melbourne, Williamstown, Sandringham and Werribee is still around. This competition will be the best football competition outside of the AFL and should be called the VFL.

 

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