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Port players play for no pay Round 1
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I know the article suggests coaches are forgoing their match payments (don't they get a flat yearly fee?) but seriously, is Gary really "coaching for free" too? 

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I'll try and dig up the audio from PMFC president Michael Schulman who was on SEN late last week

The club has put some good initiatives in place, including members going into the draw to win 2x AFL Grand Final tickets.

Other ongoing Bingo type system during the season where cash prizes can be won.







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This can't be good for moral. I dont know anybody who would welcome a pay cut from their employer. You may find a big exodus of players at seasons end if the club makes a financial loss as at the back of their heads they will have fears of further pay cuts.

Good to see the club trying some new initiatives rather than trying the same old things. At the conclusion of the round one match their will be a function - something that I have heard several people ask for in the past.

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No one likes to hear that they have to take a pay cut but frankly I think it's a good move to get it out in the open and move on as s group thereafter. Hopefully it helps the players understand how hard it is to raise the funds necessary to support a second tier professional football program in a very crowded sponsorship and fundraising market. 

Frsnkly, I reckon the Port blokes would recoil in horror if they knew the minimum chips the Burgers play for every single week. 

Standard is $250-$300 for a senior game and $100 a development game, with a few select key players getting $500 - $750 per senior match. We only pay 50% of the salary cap so we don't end up in situations like Frankston, North Ballarat and (it would seem) Port Melbourne. 

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This is one of the reasons most of the better AFL delisted players dont want to play in the VFL and so end up in one of the cashed up junior leagues

Money does motivate a lot of players ( always has) who dont give a stuff where they play and you cant blame them.They have a product to sell so why not sell to the higest bidder?.Port is they dont get their finances right pretty quick smart thry end up like Coburg. The players will only take a pay cut if they think they will play finals and  a chance at a flag.

Sandy pulled this stunt in the early 1980s but only did it for a year and some of the big names still got paid money under the table other wise they would have walked.The club did make the finals and the finances were stabilised and that led to the run of flags over the next decades.

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I wonder how much Port players would be on. At a guess I would think key players would be on just over a k a game ? $1,100 or thereabouts but I think that would be offset by some affordable youngsters (ex tac cup players etc) who you would think would be happy to pay for minimal wage as they are trying to get their name out there as they try to make it to the big time. Some may be happy playing at Port on minimal wages in the hope that the exposure leads to bigger things, as the borough are probably the one stand alone club that gets the most exposure in the VFL.

I think I like what you said RonBurger as to how the wages are distributred at Coburg - no point living above your means to only get yourself into a financial mess.

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Interesting Mega  you are talking about 100o bucks a game for the better players. I know that during the 1980s thats  30 years ago that some of the top ex AFL players playing in the VFA were getting close to that figure.Some on special bounuses got more

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At a guess, I'd take the Coburg figures and double them with a bit more on top for Willys best 5-8 players. Maybe $1500 to $2000 per game. 

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"This can't be good for moral. I dont know anybody who would welcome a pay cut from their employer."

This was an idea the players came up with, and interestingly the guys who hadn't already signed and could have gone elsewhere agree to it and signed on, so I doubt there are morale issues surrounding this. Certainly when it happened at a club I was at there were few lingering issues.

Re payments, I think the stand alone salary cap is now $450K, so take away 50K-odd for the devt team and divvy that up and you'll get a rough idea of what Willi players make on average (although it would be hard to convert that to per game as there are sign-on fees etc to factor as well).

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Yes but I could be way off - thats why I said "at a guess"

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