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STANGA
Just quickly on Princes Park, that's a disgrace!!! The Gardiner Stand should be restored along with the Heatley Stand, knock down the rest of the ugly stands, especially the Legends stand!!! So much history, down the loo! We've lost our way (society, that is, or perhaps that's a bit deep for this forum).
camelboy
I tend to agree in some respects, it's quite sad. Certainly the stand with the least moral currency is the Legends Stand. But the commercial reality is that the Gardiner Stand is just not feasible, unless restored and treated as a museum piece, ie. not used for spectators at all. It would be a fire trap if anything unfortunate were to happen. I was pretty disappointed the old Members Stand was knocked down at the G as well. But hard to resist the final outcome, the redeveloped MCG, while missing the immediate visual link to the past, is a very impressive venue. Similarly, a redeveloped Princes Park, with some fair dinkum training and admin facilities for the club is a must if we're to get back winning proper silverware. I'd rather be at a redeveloped Princes Park, than leaving our home ground altogether a la Collingwood. Can't stand in the way of progress. :|
iceman
[quote="camelboy"]I guess Port/Crows and the SANFL clubs have similar issues also. And most probably the WAFL clubs too.[/quote] The difference in the SANFL is that the remains of 2 clubs fit into 9 state level clubs. Whats an AFL list these days? 42? so if both teams have zero injuries there are going to be 40 players scatered in 9 different clubs. 4 or so players each. SANFL clubs have a secondary draft after the National Draft whereby the SANFL clubs can draft players based on requirements, predicted availability and team structure, where the SANFL clubs put their needs first. In the VFL we have 9 teams to fit into 9, (excluding all standalone) thats 180 players to scatter at that possibly up to 20 player per week figure. Therefore VFL clubs can't 'redraft' to suit their own needs, but have to make do with what they have. doesn't help When both clubs have different agendas. How do you think Port Melbourne felt when a club that they should have been accepted into the VFL/AFL 90odd years over (i.e Nth Melbourne(but thats a story for another time)) and who they are probably in a more financially stable position than, try and dictate terms to them. This is why the VFL/AFL relationships struggle. Let's remember that the SANFL and WAFL don't have 10 AFL clubs to compete with, for them, they are their 'premier' (for lack of a better word) clubs. Camelboy, it's good to have you on board, and hopefully you can embrace the VFL, any questions you have I am happy to clear them up, but I'll leave you with 1 question to ponder, What is the first structured football league in Victoria VFA/VFL or VFL/AFL. When you know the answer (you may already) it will help you understand why most on these boards are so passionate about what seems to the general public 'insignificant'. Cheers, Iceman.
STANGA
Ooh, i know . . . i know!
bullants
I'm not prepared to discuss any actual details of the Bullants financial situation until the club release details of any deal with Carlton. For mine, our supporters should continue to support the club and ensure that the current board is held accoutable to ensure that any deal with Carlton, that has the Bullants playing games at Princess Park, is only temporary [For me fives years is temporary] My reading of the situation is that the board is keen to see the club improve its finanical situation so that it can tell Carlton that its either nine games at Preston or we are going stand-alone.
camelboy
Iceman, thanks for that post. Of course I know the answer to your question, I'm not a complete blow in cretin. In fact, from memory, if we include the VFA we're a couple of flags ahead of the pack, but I'll need to check the [url=http://www.blueseum.org]Blueseum[/url] to confirm that stat. :lol: Certainly many of our let's-bash-the-AFL-administration discussions we have on TC--and there are plenty of them--centre around the loss of identity and community connection the Melbourne based clubs have lost as we have morphed into the "franchise" world and leaving our suburban roots in the history books. That said, the level of passion shown at VFA level by you guys has surprised me a little even though I can understand how and why that passion has manifested itself over the 140+ years. To be honest my knowledge of the VFA/VFL is pretty poor and all I remember is from my boarding school days in the mid-late 80s in Western Vic watching the VFA on the ABC and thinking how much it was like school footy, in that our 1st XVIII had the good players and hopes of then VFL dreams were played out and our 2nd XVIII was where all the rough stuff happened. Probably a shallow interpretation of mine, but that's what I thought. And now, in current times I take a passing interest in the Ants simply because of the Carlton connection. Tell me more about how/why the VFA became the VFL and I assume it was around this time that the alignments with the AFL clubs started to happen???
Robbo
[quote="bullants"]I'm not prepared to discuss any actual details of the Bullants financial situation until the club release details of any deal with Carlton. For mine, our supporters should continue to support the club and ensure that the current board is held accoutable to ensure that any deal with Carlton, that has the Bullants playing games at Princess Park, is only temporary [For me fives years is temporary] My reading of the situation is that the board is keen to see the club improve its finanical situation so that it can tell Carlton that its either nine games at Preston or we are going stand-alone.[/quote] I have spoken to some Bullants members today and they told me that it will be 2 games at Preston and the rest at MC Labour Park.
jasonborough
Bullants R.I.P. JASONBOROUGH
vfa
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Preston have sold their sole to the DEVIL. I cannot see Spider Shaw, Harold Martin, Ray Shaw or any old bullants ever stepping foot to that hole called Princes Park/ MC Labour Park. Very very sad day for the old faithful from Cramer Street. Greg the VULTURE Swann has swallowed up all the bullants. Jason, i agree with you R.I.P Preston Bullants
camelboy
Not that it will necessarily make you guys feel any better, from my point of view, I don't mind the idea of playing that many games at Princes Park. :oops:

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