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Bullants in 2008
With Carlton certain to pull the plug on the alignment, what are the options for the Northern Bullants in 2008. To me it would seem that the club is faced with the prospect of going stand-alone, a partial alignment with North Melbourne or the wild card of a full alignment with the Sydney Swans. For me an alignment needs to be geographical or have a past connection with the area. In the case of the Bullants, the only two clubs that fit this criteria are Carlton or Collingwood. Both AFL clubs have a strong supporter base in the Northern suburbs and had zones in the pre-draft era. As alignment options neither Carlton or Collingwood seem a realistic option so I think stand-alone is the go. My worry with a alignment with North Melbourne, is that for a handful of players, we would give up our standing as a Northern Suburbs club. Currently we do that, but Carlton's strong supporter base in the area makes up for what we lose. An alignment with North Melbourne effectively paints the club as being apart of North Melbourne and makes it hard to attract support from people in the Northern Suburbs who barrack for other AFL clubs. At the recent Bullants-Tasmainia game you could count the number of North Melbourne supporters on one hand. North Melbourne also don't have a great track record as an alignment partner. I'm prepared to overlook the Tassie alignment, players flying to another state every second week had little chance of working, but what about their relationship with Port Melbourne! Didn't work because North wanted total control of who played where, who coached Port etc. The same issues that have bugged the Bullants-Carlton alignment. I really think we should bite the bullet and go stand-alone. We have done everything to look after the interests of Carlton and still they're not satisfied. In short Carlton want the Bullants to play games at Carlton, choose the coach and some even want us to wear the Carlton jumper. I was no fan of Barry Mitchell in the first half of 2004, but to his credit he did help turn the club around, simply because he seemed to embrace that he was coaching the Bullants and not Carlton reserves. It would have been crazy to replace him, like Carlton wanted to, after taking the club to the finals in 2005 and the less said about the Pagan/Mitchell fiasco the better. In the five years of the alignment the Bullants have progressed to a professional VFL club while Carlton continue to run their club like a dog's breakfast. The fact that we don't control our own destiny has hurt us this year. Less than six weeks after a stirring win against North Ballarat the club has lost to Williamstown and Casey by over 80-points. As a stand-alone club we may lose the odd game by 80-points but at least supporters would come away knowing that everyone is on the same page.
theobserver
I'm not sure of the value of hooking up with the Kangas. I mean, who really believes they're going to be staying in Melbourne? The best scenario would be for Carlton to come to their sense and keep it going. It works well.
BigV
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and the Bullants have none. It's not really a choice for some clubs - the Kangaroos might not be a great option cause they may not be around for long but it might be the difference between having the Bullants fielding a team for the next 2-3 years or folding.
jasonborough
Digby the porn star will come to the boroughs in 2008 if they part company
WasIsAlways
Bullants totally agree with your comments. Having followed Port my whole life and having a fair degree of knowledge of our past, it was shattering to see players wear the famous red and blue who really didn't care about the club, what it stood for, what it stands for and the passion that surrounds their fantastic history. Last year when we went alone it was with great pride that the supporters again were able to admire and embrace the players who were representing the club. Only those supporters of the stand alone clubs really know what it feels like to have players from your club represent your club and history each individual week. While we might jeopardise the ultimate goal of winning a Premiership, at least the supporters know that, we collectively are responsible for the team that represents us and for the future direction that the club wishes to take. For the AFL teams who continue to solicit VFL clubs (who continue to allow them), then I am unsure of where they feel they have the right to dictate and tell them what to do. The VFL will always be better than the AFL for a number of reasons and one of them includes teams playing in the actual suburb that they represent! Finally where ever the Bullants end up know that if you do it on your own, then at least you have a club full of self dignity and respect. Sadly this is missing in a lot of footy clubs today.
camelboy
Can you guys please explain the difference between partial alignment and full alignment.
STANGA
A Partial Alignment is, for example, North Melbourne splitting their players with Tassy and North Ballarat, hence two partial alignments, as opposed to one full alignment, eg. Box Hill and Hawthorn. Do you follow the Bullants in the VFL? Did you follow another VFA team before Carlton and Preston aligned?
STANGA
A Partial Alignment is, for example, North Melbourne splitting their players with Tassy and North Ballarat, hence two partial alignments, as opposed to one full alignment, eg. Box Hill and Hawthorn. Do you follow the Bullants in the VFL? Did you follow another VFA team before Carlton and Preston aligned?
camelboy
[quote="STANGA"]A Partial Alignment is, for example, North Melbourne splitting their players with Tassy and North Ballarat, hence two partial alignments, as opposed to one full alignment, eg. Box Hill and Hawthorn. Do you follow the Bullants in the VFL? Did you follow another VFA team before Carlton and Preston aligned?[/quote] Haha, thanks, seems completely obvious when you say it like that. :oops: And, no, I'm a bandwagon jumper and only really know of the Bullants because of Carlton. I can completely understand why there are complaints coming from the VFA clubs, but it works both ways. The alignments definitely seem to be a case of necessary evils.
STANGA
Preston Blues have lost Justin Crow to Collingwood VFL, Digby Morrell possibly to Box Hill (coaching or playing, not sure), Josh Houlihan to Heidleberg, Frank Raso retired and Rossy Young likely to the mining industry! This club has had the guts ripped out of it, and with most of their games at Carlton, and with Teague clearly a Carlton man and Matt Lappin the only other signing, it's surely close to a pointless exercise for the club. It's a real shame, as when the alignments first came in, Preston, then stand alone, had fantastic spirit, and really had a crack, and a good community feel. Carlton's ravaging over what's left by the looks of it! (Although i'm more than happy if Morrell wants to come and play at Box Hill!)