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footyman
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[quote="bcarbonaro"] All games to have after match press conferences. Players and coaches to be profiled throughout the media creation of the personalities like The Pod, Robbie Gregg, Sautner, Morrell, Knights, Atkins etc faces of the VFL. [/quote]Not much point having press conferences if there is no press there to have them in front of! The fact the EJ Whitten Legends game attracts a bigger crowd than the VFL GF may indicate that Telstra Dome might be worth a shot.
bcarbonaro
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Fair point, Footyman. However, if they had this available I reckon more media would come along and show an interest in the competition.
theobserver
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That's where the VFL suffers when compared to the WAFL and SANFL. It just doesn't get the press it deserves. It's unfortunate but there doesn't seem to be a way around it in a city that lives and breathes the AFL...
billythekid
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[quote="theobserver"]That's where the VFL suffers when compared to the WAFL and SANFL. It just doesn't get the press it deserves. It's unfortunate but there doesn't seem to be a way around it in a city that lives and breathes the AFL...[/quote] It has alwys been thus and even with 12 VFL teams to compete with the old VFA still had a much better standing in the sports community and tried many innovative ideas like throwing the ball,direct telecasts against the gate,16 a side (which was a far better game that the glorified cross between soccer and rugby the AFL nows calls footy) Sunday football etc. The truth is the VFL (SIC) is now nothing more than the "reserves/seconds/magoos in the media and sporting publics eyes . What does it say about the comp when the only time a half decent crowd bothers to turn up is when some ageing injured AFL player is making an appearence? So its no wonder that a comedy game like the Whitten charity game can pull more than the real VFL GF? And for those who dont like my comments well sorry but they are the TRUTH about this sad AFL dominated and under rescourced competition with very little soul and no amoumt of tutt tutting or hand wringing will on this forum change anything. The last vestage of spirit the current VFL had was Phil Cleary as he has an unbridled passion for the code and that is so sadly lacking with the current structure of the clubs and the administration.
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[quote="billythekid"] The last vestage of spirit the current VFL had was Phil Cleary as he has an unbridled passion for the code and that is so sadly lacking with the current structure of the clubs and the administration.[/quote] Taking Phil out of the equation, to suggest that clubs and the VFL don't have any spirit for the competition is ill-informed twaddle.
billythekid
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[quote="Dolphin"][quote:cd8cccecfd="billythekid"] The last vestage of spirit the current VFL had was Phil Cleary as he has an unbridled passion for the code and that is so sadly lacking with the current structure of the clubs and the administration.[/quote] Taking Phil out of the equation, to suggest that clubs and the VFL don't have any spirit for the competition is ill-informed twaddle.[/quote] Dont agree! all the games I have been to lack atmosphere Apart from the few throwbacks to the old VFA still lingering on) even the Finals are no better than a third rate local comp.
Dolphin
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[quote="billythekid"][quote:abd2e94c99="Dolphin"][quote:abd2e94c99="billythekid"] The last vestage of spirit the current VFL had was Phil Cleary as he has an unbridled passion for the code and that is so sadly lacking with the current structure of the clubs and the administration.[/quote] Taking Phil out of the equation, to suggest that clubs and the VFL don't have any spirit for the competition is ill-informed twaddle.[/quote] Dont agree! all the games I have been to lack atmosphere Apart from the few throwbacks to the old VFA still lingering on) even the Finals are no better than a third rate local comp.[/quote] Fair enough. Thats your opinion, I'm just not sure how much you know about what spirit the VFL or Clubs might have.
billythekid
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[quote="Dolphin"][quote:86c9ed4eeb="billythekid"][quote:86c9ed4eeb="Dolphin"][quote:86c9ed4eeb="billythekid"] The last vestage of spirit the current VFL had was Phil Cleary as he has an unbridled passion for the code and that is so sadly lacking with the current structure of the clubs and the administration.[/quote] Taking Phil out of the equation, to suggest that clubs and the VFL don't have any spirit for the competition is ill-informed twaddle.[/quote] Dont agree! all the games I have been to lack atmosphere Apart from the few throwbacks to the old VFA still lingering on) even the Finals are no better than a third rate local comp.[/quote] Fair enough. Thats your opinion, I'm just not sure how much you know about what spirit the VFL or Clubs might have.[/quote] Mate like vfa I go back over 50 years of the VFA/VFL and have seen it all from when I was a kid and the VFA was always put down by the media and VFL supporters to the in the golden era from the late 1960s to the late 1980s. So I do know a little bit about "atmosphere and spirit" at football games and the current comp is lacking both in spades. Im not only talking about on field but whole groups of people from the bootstuder and crazy/fanatical supporters around the old VFA clubs that made them unique in their communities.You can still find this at most locals clubs around the suburbs. That the type of spirit that makes a club and has all but gone in the new VFL. Ironically it didnt have to be like this at all but by trying to erase the memory of the VFA football Victoria has done untold damage that cannot be recovered. Instead of putting the VFA history down they should have embraced it and used it as a unique marketing tool. Unfortunately ther are wellknownl VFA haters like Aylett and co still around trying to kill off the VFAs memory and the best way to do that is change the name and basic stucture of the organisation. What if suddenly Coca Cola or McDonalds suddenly changed their name to Pepsi or Burger King imagine the outcry and loss of business form their dedicated customers? Why do you think a very unsuccssefull club on the field for 50 years like Collingwood has kept their huge supporter base intact.Its because they honour their past glorious history and traditions and keep it sacred. How do you think changing to the Melbourne Magpies (which is what they basically are now) would go down?
Dolphin
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OK, I think we are talking about differant things. What I was refering to was a comment that I took to mean that neither the VFL Administration, nor any of the VFL Clubs, had any spirit for the competition. I don't beleive that is the case. Thats all.
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