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footyman
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[quote="Kanga-Rooster"][quote:d7311e0586="rooster"]How much would it cost to get the thousands of vouchers printed ? Wouldn't it make sense just to charge $15 in the first place ?[/quote] I think that the $25 charge has to do with Telstra Dome and Ticketmaster. Some sort of minimum charge perhaps??[/quote]Doubtful. A normal game of AFL footy home and away is only about $20. Perhaps the costs of running the night are very high, hence the higher price. We all know Telstra Dome root everyone.
MinkaBeaver
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[quote="footyman"][quote:37acdcd943="Kanga-Rooster"][quote:37acdcd943="rooster"]How much would it cost to get the thousands of vouchers printed ? Wouldn't it make sense just to charge $15 in the first place ?[/quote] I think that the $25 charge has to do with Telstra Dome and Ticketmaster. Some sort of minimum charge perhaps??[/quote]Doubtful. A normal game of AFL footy home and away is only about $20. Perhaps the costs of running the night are very high, hence the higher price. We all know Telstra Dome root everyone.[/quote] General admission for a home-and-away match at Telstra Dome costs $19. As a point of reference for state league events, the Victorian Premier League soccer final cost me $20 last year at Bob Jane Stadium. To me, that seemed really steep for a state game, and in fact it attracted a handful of neutrals at best. (Didn't help either that while one side had a large support, the other had a smaller base). I've got really grave fears about this. A couple of week's ago I thought that a crowd of 15,000-20,000 was possible. Now I think that VFA's estimate of 12,000-15,000 could be on the money.
billythekid
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The real truth about the over 30,000 GF crowds (I attended many of them) the VFA achieved from the 1940 to the 1980s were because the GFs were played on the Saturday after the VFL GF or later on, on Sundays with very little competition from others sports and entertainments. The exception was the 1962 VFA GF between Sandy and Moorabbin won by Sandy by 1 point. The VFL Reserves had had a draw the week before I think it was Essendon and maybe St Kilda so they replayed it at the MCG at the same time as the VFA GF and drew 17.000 to the VFAs 11,000 at the Junction Oval. My point is that I cannot nowadays see the general sporting in Melbourne all of a sudden rushing out to buy overpriced tickets to what amounts to a Reserves game they have little or no interest in when all the focus is on the AFL GF the following day. Also its looks very likely that there will be an all Victorian AFL GF so you wont have the hoardes of people from Adelaide and Perth roaming around the city on the friday night looking for something to do as in the past. A big big boo boo VFL!
theobserver
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I've been to the last four or five EFL grannies at Bayswater. 14,000 people? That's what the league says. It's poppycock. I'd say 6000 tops. Silly old Billy, I don't think you can pan the VFL for trying something different. It's the showcase game of the year so why not put it at showcase stadium? Some people who wouldn't normally go the VFL might be attracted to the game because of the superior facilities. Here's hoping. VFA, I've been to about 25 VFA/VFL grannies. The worst crowd I've seen was in 1999 at the North Port Oval when North Ballarat played Spirngvale. 4000 at best, I reckon and absolutely zero atmosphere. It didn't help that the game was over by half time.
theobserver
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But I agree about ticket prices. I reckon $25 is too steep.
billythekid
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[quote="theobserver"]I've been to the last four or five EFL grannies at Bayswater. 14,000 people? That's what the league says. It's poppycock. I'd say 6000 tops. [b]Silly old Billy, I don't think you can pan the VFL for trying something different. It's the showcase game of the year so why not put it at showcase stadium? Some people who wouldn't normally go the VFL might be attracted to the game because of the superior facilities. Here's hoping[/b]. Enough of the Silly jibe! I might be getting older but Im far from stupid and consider my knowledge of the VFA and its history as good as anybody living! I also doubt if people go to any sporting facilities just because they are nice and modern and especially when they have to pay through the nose when they have little or no interest in the event. Lets dissect the possible crowd numbers then. Say we end up with a Port vs Nth Ballarat GF which is on the cards> Port might bring in 2500 Nt Ballarat 1000 where are the other 15,000 coming from? not the TAC teams mums and dads,not the handfull of ageing former VFA supporters that still go to games. You only have to look at the rapidly declining crowds at the ABC TV games this year to see that. I hope Im wrong and 20,000 turn up but I dont think I will be. Dont forget even North Port has never been filled to capacity for VFA/VFL GF for many years so why would a stadium with a cap of 54,000 draw nay more that recent GFs which have averages about 9000. In fact the only time I ever saw the Port ground full was the 1965 GF between Port and Waverley when an estimated 26,000 attended and the mounds behind the goals at each end were chock full. An urban myth has it that a gate was left open( some say on purpose) well before the Seconds GF game and thousands of Port supporters were inside the ground before tickets started to go on sale. As a result the VFA GFs returned to the Junction Oval in 1966 and stayed there for another 21 years.
footyman
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[quote="MinkaBeaver"] I've got really grave fears about this. A couple of week's ago I thought that a crowd of 15,000-20,000 was possible. Now I think that VFA's estimate of 12,000-15,000 could be on the money.[/quote]The issue too will be the TAC Cup Grand Final beforehand. Quite possible that a few thousand could rock up for that but not stay for the VFL Grand Final. Plenty of people have other stuff on Grand Final Eve. That's why I'm very concerned the TAC GF starts at 4pm and will be over by about 6.20pm. I know there will be a presentation but an hour before the start of the VFL isn't going to help keep people in the joint!
theobserver
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I'd be as surprised as I'd be disappointed if at least 15,000 people don't show. I reckon they'll get 20,000. Anything less than 10,000 and the alarm bells shoulld be ringing loud.
MinkaBeaver
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[quote="footyman"][quote:c6397578ba="MinkaBeaver"] I've got really grave fears about this. A couple of week's ago I thought that a crowd of 15,000-20,000 was possible. Now I think that VFA's estimate of 12,000-15,000 could be on the money.[/quote]The issue too will be the TAC Cup Grand Final beforehand. Quite possible that a few thousand could rock up for that but not stay for the VFL Grand Final. Plenty of people have other stuff on Grand Final Eve. That's why I'm very concerned the TAC GF starts at 4pm and will be over by about 6.20pm. I know there will be a presentation but an hour before the start of the VFL isn't going to help keep people in the joint![/quote] That's a very good point. I guess that the AFL Grand Final parade might also tail into that and draw people along to the game, just to keep the day going a bit longer.
footyman
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[quote="MinkaBeaver"] That's a very good point.[/quote]Had to happen eventually! :lol:

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