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footyman
Collingwood to use two TAC top ups
Interesting tomorrow that two Calder Cannons - Daniel Buckley and Patrick Hayes - will pull on the Collingwood jumper and play in the VFL. Both guys are overage and play TAC Cup under the 19 year old rule. More interesting is that Hayes played a game earlier this year with the Coburg Reserves. Coburg last year gave draftees Mitch Farmer and James Polkinghorne a senior game each, but so far this year no Calder players have represented Coburg in a senior match. Obviously the Cannons have found an alternative. The question is what level of interest does Collingwood have in drafting either of the players?
MinkaBeaver
[quote="footyman"]Interesting tomorrow that two Calder Cannons - Daniel Buckley and Patrick Hayes - will pull on the Collingwood jumper and play in the VFL. Both guys are overage and play TAC Cup under the 19 year old rule. More interesting is that Hayes played a game earlier this year with the Coburg Reserves. Coburg last year gave draftees Mitch Farmer and James Polkinghorne a senior game each, but so far this year no Calder players have represented Coburg in a senior match. Obviously the Cannons have found an alternative. The question is what level of interest does Collingwood have in drafting either of the players?[/quote] From a strictly VFL perspective, my question is what are the registration requirements that allow a player (any player, be they from the TAC Cup or otherwise) to play for two clubs in the same season? I know about the 30 June deadlines for changing lists in the VFL (as occurs in most leagues around the country), but don't know much about registration restrictions beyond that. Anybody?
jasonborough
Good luck to the two young boys playing for the pies,lets hope they dont get invovled in the rubbish collingwood served up last week v port.
NorthPort
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How the hell does this work? I'm probably getting pissed off about nothing, but what purpose does the aligments with the VFL serve, if Collingwood can just play players still involved in the TAC Cup? I wonder how happy Coburg are with this arrangement ?






footyman
[quote="NorthPort"]How the hell does this work? I'm probably getting pissed off about nothing, but what purpose does the aligments with the VFL serve, if Collingwood can just play players still involved in the TAC Cup? [/quote]Well I don't know. I guess the problem arises because Calder want some of their kids to get senior VFL exposure to enhance their draft chances and Coburg on the eve of finals won't flirt with their form by playing them. It highlights the pitfalls of proposed system because VFL clubs, their aligned AFL partners and now TAC Cup kids wanting to be drafted all have different goals and different agendas. As I said a few weeks ago, I'm certain that they'll conflict. I'm not sure what rules Collingwood work under though. Perhaps some clarification needed from someone who knows.
TheVoiceoftheB
[quote="footyman"]I'm not sure what rules Collingwood work under though. Perhaps some clarification needed from someone who knows.[/quote] I think that's the point, nobody really does anymore, they just make it up. Seems that way. You all appear baffled, and rightly so.
footyman
[quote="TheVoiceoftheB"] I think that's the point, nobody really does anymore, they just make it up. Seems that way. You all appear baffled, and rightly so.[/quote]Well this is the first time I've seen this. VFL teams can use top up players to make up the numbers, thats no drama. But Collingwood had a list of 21 VFL listed players at the start of the year, I would assume all of them have to be selected or injured before they're permitted to play top ups. And the other issue is whether Calder Cannons who are a feeder side for the Coburg Tigers should have their players pulling on a jumper for another VFL side.
digs
[quote="footyman"][quote:aabf4ea9ea="TheVoiceoftheB"] I think that's the point, nobody really does anymore, they just make it up. Seems that way. You all appear baffled, and rightly so.[/quote]Well this is the first time I've seen this. VFL teams can use top up players to make up the numbers, thats no drama. But Collingwood had a list of 21 VFL listed players at the start of the year, I would assume all of them have to be selected or injured before they're permitted to play top ups. And the other issue is whether Calder Cannons who are a feeder side for the Coburg Tigers should have their players pulling on a jumper for another VFL side.[/quote] As a matter of interest North Ballarat reserves have played a top age player Bryn Weadon from the Rebels on two occasions this year.

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footyman
[quote="digs"] As a matter of interest North Ballarat reserves have played a top age player Bryn Weadon from the Rebels on two occasions this year.[/quote]Yep, which is fine cos he's a North Ballarat Rebels player. And actually he's 19 years old. I think Williamstown have played a few Western Jets boys in previous seasons too. The issue is obviously the two Cannons guys today were playing for a club other than the one their TAC/VFL club are zoned with.
MinkaBeaver
[quote="footyman"][quote:598fcaf507="digs"] As a matter of interest North Ballarat reserves have played a top age player Bryn Weadon from the Rebels on two occasions this year.[/quote]Yep, which is fine cos he's a North Ballarat Rebels player. And actually he's 19 years old. I think Williamstown have played a few Western Jets boys in previous seasons too. The issue is obviously the two Cannons guys today were playing for a club other than the one their TAC/VFL club are zoned with.[/quote] The issue is more than that; it's that they are playing for an AFL stand-alone club. If only other clubs were so lucky as to be able to chuck potential draftees into their VFL affiliates with a view to 'player development'!
footyman
[quote="MinkaBeaver"] The issue is more than that; it's that they are playing for an AFL stand-alone club. If only other clubs were so lucky as to be able to chuck potential draftees into their VFL affiliates with a view to 'player development'![/quote]To some extent I agree, although it's no big deal that Collingwood play them for mine - it isn't like they get priority access to these guys in the draft. If Collingwood do like them, well they're simply showing their hand to 15 other clubs. If they don't, then I guess they've at least given two guys a chance to pull a Magpies jumper on and play senior footy. Amazing how much of a thrill kids do get from something like that. But I just want to see a rule book that says it can be done!