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jamesh
Is the VFA a dirty secret

Everyone I speak to says I am going to hit nothing but brick walls regarding the VFA history and any records - people either wont help or those that can are dead. Nobody can tell me where annual reports for the association are so I can only presume they are in someones garage and will die with them.

One historian suggested the VSFL may have even shut the VFA down out of spite.

Ken Gannon is dodging me like he is Doug Nicholls. Most club historians are past caring.... and shocked that someone from adelaide cares.

I followed West Torrens here in Adelaide and saw firsthand what a mess it caused when an organisation folds.

It seems the VFA, its records and what went on in the 90s is footballs dirty little secret - like a love affair everyone should be ashamed of.

billythekid

[quote=jamesh]Everyone I speak to says I am going to hit nothing but brick walls regarding the VFA history and any records - people either wont help or those that can are dead. Nobody can tell me where annual reports for the association are so I can only presume they are in someones garage and will die with them.

One historian suggested the VSFL may have even shut the VFA down out of spite.

Ken Gannon is dodging me like he is Doug Nicholls. Most club historians are past caring.... and shocked that someone from adelaide cares.

I followed West Torrens here in Adelaide and saw firsthand what a mess it caused when an organisation folds.

It seems the VFA, its records and what went on in the 90s is footballs dirty little secret - like a love affair everyone should be ashamed of.[/quote]

You are not wrong!Gannon was one of the main reasons the VFA was structured out of existence. He had no VFA background and no love for the organisation at all.

Mark Fiddian would be your best bet if he is still kicking as he also wrote the official VFA Centenary history book "The Pioneers"

Most people from other States just dont get the hatred the VFL had for the VFA and ofcourse its much longer history and most would have hoped that the VFA would have faded away when the VFL traitor clubs led by Collingwood broke away in 1896 but to their horror the VFA kept being thorn in their side right up to the mid 1980s.

The dirty little secret that the Victorian AFL/AFL Clubs and Sydney have is that they all owe the VFA for their existence and they hate to admit it!

Without the original VFA (and SANFL) formed in 1877 there would be NO AFL/VFL - its a bit like your mother bore you.
Of course the greatest irony act of barstardy was for the AFL did was to change the name of the VFA to the VFL by their suckholes at Football Victoria which is now AFL Victoria (SIC) and its still full of AFL areslickers.!

vfa
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Jamesh, there are plenty of collectors like yours truly that do have Annual Reports from VFA clubs. I might have around 60 of the various clubs. From the VFA I would have Annual reports from the early 70s until the mid 90s. If you want a VFA recorder there is a bloke called John Ficcaro and he would have almost every record from the 20s. From the late 60s until the early 80s VFA was huge. The channel 0 match of the day had it all. Plenty of brawls, tough and fast footy and plenty of tribalism. Many rivalries with the two divisions. Check VFA Facebook page as there is a bit of stuff on there. Worth a look. Rumour has it that there is a vault with VFA stuff hidden away. This might be a fact as I have heard of it from quite a few sources.
I might have to send you some tapes from some of the games to view.

jamesh

I dont understand why the VFA 'name' had to be erased. Even if the organisation was broke it could have been reformed like the Dandenong Redlegs. Hell Sydney & St Kilda have gone broke and folded thany times it isnt funny. I smell a rat in this whole affair.

Is it true the VSFL even closed the Recorder down?

vfa I hope everything did get preserved in such a vault.... without doubt if it was discovered the AFL Vic/or the AFL would find a way to take ownership rather than it it being preserved for football. It was eerie that Alex Gillon's obituart appeared in the AFL annual report... his forward in Mark Fiddian's book seemed very bitter.

I was only 15 when this all happened so I only recall the VSFL being a fancy name for the AFL reserves.

There has been talk in the past of changing the SANFL to AFL SA - this wont happen while certain people are still alive

West Torrens formed 1895 (merged woodville 1991)
Port Melbourne formed 1874

jamesh

I dont understand why the VFA 'name' had to be erased. Even if the organisation was broke it could have been reformed like the Dandenong Redlegs. Hell Sydney & St Kilda have gone broke and folded thany times it isnt funny. I smell a rat in this whole affair.

Is it true the VSFL even closed the Recorder down?

vfa I hope everything did get preserved in such a vault.... without doubt if it was discovered the AFL Vic/or the AFL would find a way to take ownership rather than it it being preserved for football. It was eerie that Alex Gillon's obituart appeared in the AFL annual report... his forward in Mark Fiddian's book seemed very bitter.

I was only 15 when this all happened so I only recall the VSFL being a fancy name for the AFL reserves.

There has been talk in the past of changing the SANFL to AFL SA - this wont happen while certain people are still alive

West Torrens formed 1895 (merged woodville 1991)
Port Melbourne formed 1874

billythekid

[quote=jamesh]I dont understand why the VFA 'name' had to be erased. Even if the organisation was broke it could have been reformed like the Dandenong Redlegs. Hell Sydney & St Kilda have gone broke and folded thany times it isnt funny. I smell a rat in this whole affair.

Is it true the VSFL even closed the Recorder down?

vfa I hope everything did get preserved in such a vault.... without doubt if it was discovered the AFL Vic/or the AFL would find a way to take ownership rather than it it being preserved for football. It was eerie that Alex Gillon's obituart appeared in the AFL annual report... his forward in Mark Fiddian's book seemed very bitter.

I was only 15 when this all happened so I only recall the VSFL being a fancy name for the AFL reserves.

There has been talk in the past of changing the SANFL to AFL SA - this wont happen while certain people are still alive[/quote]

Of course they stopped the Recorder and replaced it with the tatty VFL record as I have said before it was/is an attempt to obliterate all things to do with the wonderfull and important history of the VFA in relation to the overall picture of AUSTRALIAN fOOTBALL and concentrate one just league the AFL as if the they are the only owners of OUR game!

jamesh

They are along with port adelaide are trying to do the same thing here. An aritcle in todays paper says the sanfl says no to accepting crows/port reserve teams

West Torrens formed 1895 (merged woodville 1991)
Port Melbourne formed 1874