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cisco
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MegaA You make some good points however I am not saying Williamstown was robbed but the impact McEvoy had when the game was in the balance was instrumental in Box Hill's win!! The decision to allow him to play would not happen in any under age sporting competition anywhere in Australia!!!

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MegaA
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Cisco - thank you. I was not specifically saying you were saying that Willy was robbed more so saying in general people say that it is too hard to match it the AFL sides. You hear it on this forum and on the terraces often.

Agree with your point on Mcevoy and the rule stating that the GM can overrule all playing rules should be abolished. Get him on a good day and he will let your player play and on a bad day perhaps a Monday morning he may not.

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Looks like I will be barracking for Footscray on Sunday.
Go dogs !!

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I'm not saying Port was robbed... We lost to a better team on the day. And you're right, Port wasn't far off it. Some junk time goals blew out the score a bit, but it was a great game. A bit better goal kicking and we could have been 4 goals up at half time and the dynamic would have been different. The challenge is certainly to work on routes to goal against good opposition.

And I think it would be hard to criticise Footscray. They've done a great job on the field, and off the field in the way they've captured the imaginations of western bulldogs fans. That would have been the best non grand final crowd in decades wouldn't it?

I did feel for Williamstown though. When the dust settles they'd have to be happy finishing 3rd or 4th in their first year stand alone. But McEvoy was pivotal and I think that was unfair.

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I don't criticise the comp. They're just trying to balance a lot of competing interests: The strong AFL teams who see it as just the reserves (Hawthorn, Geelong, Collingwood), The AFL clubs that aren't really in the running for the AFL flag but are focused on longer term success (like the Bulldogs, Melbourne and StKilda), the old VFA clubs that are serious flag contenders like Willy and Port and lastly the old VFA clubs who are battling to survive... Then there's some "in between". It's a complex mix.

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Well said footyman - the VFL competition has lost its soul!!!!

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Cisco,
The VFL has been a pox competition since the AFL clubs became involved, but saved a couple of clubs from extinction.
Splitting the comp is not the answer as I think you would be looking at Port vs Willy grand finals every year.

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cisco
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No dramas Digs - nice to hear from you.

My point is that this would never have happened in the pre VFL days when you Guys had players of the calibre of Johnny Polkinghorne, Jeremy Clayton and Julian Field, who played for the jumper not for themselves.

By splitting the comp would be no different to now where the AFL aligned clubs have dominated and probably will continue to dominant the competition. I certainly dont want to lose clubs but at least the rules would be clear and NO EXCEPTIONS!!!

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Heath - yes I think it would of been a bigger crowd than the Port vs Willywood (when Williamstown was affiliated with Collingwood) match some 10 years ago. I don;t think a non grand final crowd of that size would of been seen since the 80's.

Digs makes a fair point - splitting the competition will see two teams dominate with the league being similar to what the scottish division 1 used to be like - Port and Willy at top and everybody else playing for 3rd. Valid point however the stand alone VFl sides would have more chance winning in their own division then they currently do. You would think the Frankstons and Coburgs would welcome such a idea.

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Still a successful season for the seagulls in their first year back as a standalone team.
Foxtel Cup winners, Reserves premiers going back to back.
Narrow 7 point loss yesterday. Successful hall of fame dinner celebrating their 150th year. Standalone VFA giants in Williamstown and Port were not far off in Prelims.
Port overun in last quarter and the seagulls were very close but no cigar.
They did far better than AFL standalone teams in Essendon, Geelong, Carlton, Richmond and Collingwood in season 2014.

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MegaA, I think that is the last thing Frankston would want.

For starters, the team was more competitive against AFL stand alone teams than VFL stand alone teams this season, and the AFL reserves teams bring the crowds through the gate and more interest in the comp from a wider audience.

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