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VFA Records & Non-Premiership Matches added to hardballget.net

G'Day All, another huge dose of VFA history has just been added to the site...

 

VFA NON-PREMIERSHIP MATCHES

EXHIBITION MATCHES OF NOTE

Everything from Williamstown vs New South Wales in 1886 to Williamstown vs North Melbourne in 1992.

VFA vs VFL (1897-)

The rivalry continues! Includes the long-forgotten practice games of 1898-1906 and the 1924 "Championship of Victoria" between Essendon (VFL) and Footscray (VFA).

PROMOTION PLAYOFFS (1961-62)

A second shot at promotion for the Second Division runners-up.

LIGHTNING PREMIERSHIP (1972-79)

Played as curtain-raisers for the VFA Finals Series - also includes Essendon's Charity Cup victory of 1896. plus:

CENTENARY CUP (1977)

VFA vs SANFL (1977-78)

VSFL PREMIER'S CUP (1992)

PRE-SEASON CUP (1993-95)

VFL-TFL CHALLENGE CUP (1997-99)

Click here to find out more...

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VFA RECORDS - GAMES, GOALS, SCORES

The VFA-VFL record holders for:

GAMES - Most games played - Most games coached

GOALS - Most in a Career - Most in a Season - Most in a Match - Most in a VFA-VFL Grand Final - Most in a Representative Match

HIGHEST & LOWEST SCORES (1897-) Includes all those cricket scores run-up in the 1980s such as Williamstown's 55.17 (347) against Camberwell who kicked a mere 4.8 (32) - a winning margin of 315 points! Click here to find out more...

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Other new additions include a site map to provide instant access to the ever-growing collection of information on the site

Enjoy digging through it all and reminiscing about the Association. May the best team win the flag this weekend!

Easty

billythekid

HI easty

I dont think you should lump the First and second Division goal kickers together as they were two very different standards and to me it was a lot easier to kick goals in 2nd Division.

easty

G'Day Billy - I'd actually considered separating them back when I was writing that page of the site. Eventually decided to keep them together and indicate the Second Division goalkickers with a (D2) in the year column.

I agree on the difference in standards between each division. Will have another look at it when I get a chance and see if there's a better way of doing it.

easty

Have just expanded the Most Goals in a Season section to include every player that kicked 100+, players have also been split into First and Second Division. It's looking much better IMHO:

http://www.hardballget.net/vfa-vfl-records.html

Cheers for the feedback, Billy ;)

billythekid

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G'Day Billy - I'd actually considered separating them back when I was writing that page of the site. Eventually decided to keep them together and indicate the Second Division goalkickers with a (D2) in the year column.

I agree on the difference in standards between each division. Will have another look at it when I get a chance and see if there's a better way of doing it.

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Thanks for that I would reckon players like Fred Cook in his prime would have kicked 150 = most seasons in the Second Div.
It would be like comparing the top VFL goalkickers of that era with the VFA ones

billythekid

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easty wrote:

G'Day Billy - I'd actually considered separating them back when I was writing that page of the site. Eventually decided to keep them together and indicate the Second Division goalkickers with a (D2) in the year column.
I agree on the difference in standards between each division. Will have another look at it when I get a chance and see if there's a better way of doing it.
Thanks for that I would reckon players like Fred Cook in his prime would have kicked 150 = most seasons in the Second Div.
It would be like comparing the top VFL goalkickers of that era with the VFA ones[/quote]
Peter Neville who started as an thirds player played one game at Sandringham in 1975 kicking 2 goals before being cleared to Mordialloc at 180 cms he was at the time
considered too short for FF and Sandy aleady had ex ST Kilda champ Ian Cooper at FF who had kicked a swag of goals with the Zebras inc 104 in 1973

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Then we have a player like mark Fotheringham who kicked goals for Yarraville then crossed over to Williamstown. Rino Pretto although kicked bags of goals in second diviion mainly for oakleigh was up to the firts division standard for Oakleigh then Dandenong.
Freddie Cook was chased by North in 1977 but the dogs would not clear him. With the likes of Burns, Cable, Tanner etc he would have had a frenzy of goals and I have no doubt he would have easily topped the ton for North had he played. Cook was a good player with the dogs before crossing over to Yarraville.

Billy, in the 60s 70s and 80s we were blessed with many great full forwards in both first and second division. Many had cult followings on channel 0/10.

Speaking of Peter Neville, Rino Pretto played at full back for Camberwell and Coburg before crossing over to the oaks. He also played one senior game with Fitzroy.

Amazing how both neville and Pretto were prolific goal kickers. Who would have thought after modest starts to their vfa CAREERS.

billythekid

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Then we have a player like mark Fotheringham who kicked goals for Yarraville then crossed over to Williamstown. Rino Pretto although kicked bags of goals in second diviion mainly for oakleigh was up to the firts division standard for Oakleigh then Dandenong.
Freddie Cook was chased by North in 1977 but the dogs would not clear him. With the likes of Burns, Cable, Tanner etc he would have had a frenzy of goals and I have no doubt he would have easily topped the ton for North had he played. Cook was a good player with the dogs before crossing over to Yarraville.

Billy, in the 60s 70s and 80s we were blessed with many great full forwards in both first and second division. Many had cult followings on channel 0/10.

Speaking of Peter Neville, Rino Pretto played at full back for Camberwell and Coburg before crossing over to the oaks. He also played one senior game with Fitzroy.

Amazing how both neville and Pretto were prolific goal kickers. Who would have thought after modest starts to their vfa CAREERS.

I think Nevlle was stiff at Sandy as the Zebras had a lot of good big taller forwards and Nevelle was straight out of the Thirds where he was a star.

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As you said Neville was not that tall but knew how to kick a goal or two.
Good to see Mordialloc win their second flag on the weekend since their 1977 win over Yarraville. Their last flag was in 1999 beating Surrey Park. Pity that long gone clubs have folded. Would love to see them still around as a club even in the lower suburban leagues. Mordialloc, Berwick and Kilsyth are 3 clubs from the VFA that still exist. Geelong West half exists as Geelong West St Peters.