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paul

Stories of players not being paid at Frankston have been greatly exaggerated. The Dolphins on-field issues simply come down to not retaining players who mostly want to stay there and not getting the best out of the talent since Brett Lovett left.

The way Coburg have gone stand alone and been mostly competitive straight away on a low budget shows there's not real excuse for Frankston's record the past seven years.

Heath_eld

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I don't think the AFL would want to move Frankston on unless they present a financial risk, it is a club where young players get to take the next step on the talent pathway and which produces AFL talent. I very much doubt the AFL care how many wins a club has in the VFL, they'd prefer a stand alone team which plays mostly young kids than one which pays experienced players and is successful each year.

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I'm not so sure about that. I think the AFL mostly sees the VFL as a place for their reserves to be put to the test. Their "development league" is the TAC cup. I suspect that the Essendon football club deep down would not be particularly happy about the above result - how many conclusions can they draw from it.

An under 23s VFL (meaning under 23s at the non afl clubs) would be a joke - what could say, Hawthorn, draw from Box Hill playing a bunch of kids who didn't get drafted?

It is true that Coburg was able to essentially select local talent, on a small budget, and is competitive (I can't see it making the step to top 4 though). Why can't Frankston do likewise? What level is the Mornington Peninsula Football league at?

paul

The VFL is definitely a part of the AFL's talent pathway. Look how many players above the age of 18 are now taken in the various drafts compared to yesteryear.

Mornington Peninsula football is strong, the issues over the past few years as I said have been the inability to keep good players, even when many wanted to stay at the club, and not getting the best out of the talent as Coburg, Port and Williamstown are doing pretty well.

While the overall picture is quite simple, the many events that have caused it are quite complex, and they leave the club in a tough situation caused mostly by self-inflicted wounds (along with the State Govt's pokie sale debacle).

paul

The most important thing, though, is not what's happened but what happens next. Hopefully the lessons of the past, both recent and dating back over the past seven years, can be learnt and the club can capitalise on the brilliant new facility we will soon have.

Robbo

I understand there is a the new facilities maybe open Mid July.

Once that has finished the club should be able to make more money with bigger functions etc.

Yes the club is struggling given what happened at the end of last year.

Please give the club time with new coach and group to jell. We may not win a game this season but as long as we can competitive that is all we ask.

Heath_eld

Definitely wishing you well - VFL needs strong standalone clubs and you represent a key region!

Bearsman
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It would be a tragedy if Frankston cant continue in the VFL. It really should a powerhouse given the talent available to the club via the MPNFL and the Stingrays. The quickest way to obtaining the financial status required will be through onfield success. It will be near on impossible to attract corporate sponsors if they cant win games. Lets face it, its not going to be grog raffles, karaoke nights and money from the bar that saves this club.The money needed will have to come from sponorship. The next couple of years should see them buy some top line players and keep turning over their list. If they can make the finals they will be in a much better position to get sponsorship. Why not do a deal with the council to sell the name of the ground for sponorship ala Pirhana Park at Coburg. Depending on whos interested they may be able to include the name of the new facility in the deal. Would also like to see the Frankston jumper brought out of the dark ages. Black jumper, black shorts, black socks. Looks bloody awful. Go back to the red white and black,look professional and make the outfit visually attractive to the supporters.
Most important is the players. They have to be payed at least their market value. No one in any job will cop being paid 'unders'. Footballers are the same. Why stay at Frankston training 3-4 nights a week when you can get more money at clubs like Noble Park etc and train 2 nights a week? They need to make looking after their players a top priority.

paul

The club is interested in selling naming rights to Frankston Park for some time. Would certainly be a big boost if they can.

vfa
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All is not lost for the dolphins. They can recruit a 71 year old former player who is still playing super rules over 45s for Melbourne. They showed it on channel seven news last night. Seriously that is amazing that a 71 year old is still running around.
His name is Ian Shepherd who also played reserves for Melbourne in the mid 60s. Not sure what years he played for the dolphins but reckon late 60s early 70s maybe.

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[quote=Heath_eld]

paul wrote:

I don't think the AFL would want to move Frankston on unless they present a financial risk, it is a club where young players get to take the next step on the talent pathway and which produces AFL talent. I very much doubt the AFL care how many wins a club has in the VFL, they'd prefer a stand alone team which plays mostly young kids than one which pays experienced players and is successful each year.

I'm not so sure about that. I think the AFL mostly sees the VFL as a place for their reserves to be put to the test. Their "development league" is the TAC cup. I suspect that the Essendon football club deep down would not be particularly happy about the above result - how many conclusions can they draw from it.

An under 23s VFL (meaning under 23s at the non afl clubs) would be a joke - what could say, Hawthorn, draw from Box Hill playing a bunch of kids who didn't get drafted?

It is true that Coburg was able to essentially select local talent, on a small budget, and is competitive (I can't see it making the step to top 4 though). Why can't Frankston do likewise? What level is the Mornington Peninsula Football league at?

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Are people aware that the AFL is currently conducting a review of second-tier competitions? The VFL's role in the structure of football will become clearer after this is completed.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-02-24/afl-to-review-secondtier-competitions

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-25/talent-pathway-under-review

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/national-review-to-focus-on-stat...

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