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billythekid
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Tough for the Zebras

Sandy blew a massive chance at snagging the flag by giving Williamstown an eight goals lead at 3/4 time
There is no such thing as a "valiant loss" during the finals
This is a huge blow to Sandys flag hopes and coming up against a very strong Collingwood
seconds team next week the Zebras could now go out in straight sets.
My money is on Hawthorn seconds to take out the flag most likely playing against the Pies if they get over the Zebras this week.

BTW I think 11.30 is bastard of a time to be playing a vital finals match but I notice the VFL has the time as 2pm for both games which is right?.
A lot of people are hardly out of bed on a Sunday at 11.30 so its sure to effect the crowd a lot when you can sit at home and have brunch if its the right time.

Still you sell you soul to TV channels and this is what you can expect - to be treated like shit.
Of course Im with Ayers in forming a new comp but it aint going to happen as the AFL now OWNS the VFL(sic)lock,stock and barrel and sadly as the AFL puts in most of the money to run the now quasi Reserves comp the clubs that break away wouldnt survive.I believe that the standalone clubs will one by one go by the wayside and the AFL will run a smaller Reserves comp of only AFL clubs in Victoria.

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It may not have been a 'valiant loss' but Sandy came back really hard in the last 1/4.

Full credit to Williamstown. The 2 goals they scored against the wind in the 2nd 1/4 proved decisive. Their 2nd 1/4 against the wind was very good bottling the play up

But...we get a second chance next week against Collingwod at Port Melbourne next Sunday at 11.30am

We'll get a couple of St Kilda players back. Holmes seems certain to play. Maybe Minchington and hopefully Cockie will be ok to return

Definitely not wrting the season off yet

Sandy. The most successful club in the past 30 years

paul
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No disgrace in losing a QF by 7 points against a high quality opponent. History says not having the week off can make it tough, but from memory Geelong lost to Port in the QF in 2012 and then went the long way home and beat them in the GF.

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Im not giving up but the club is now in a much harder position to even make the GF As you know from history the best and most successful route is to win the QF then rest and have only two games to win as against three on the trot to win in finals which is a very big ask!
Sandy should have had everything going for them playing at home but unfortunately not up to the task.
Dont forget Collingwood can play about half of the firsts team that lost to Essendon today

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Playing at home yes, but that ground suits Williamstown's game very well.

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Im not giving up but the club is now in a much harder position to even make the GF As you know from history the best and most successful route is to win the QF then rest and have only two games to win as against three on the trot to win in finals which is a very big ask!
Sandy should have had everything going for them playing at home but unfortunately not up to the task.
Dont forget Collingwood can play about half of the firsts team that lost to Essendon today

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Essendon should be in the same boat also Billy.

We might be from the bush. but we ain't green

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Playing at home yes, but that ground suits Williamstown's game very well.

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Not as much as it should suit Sandy Willy did have an advantage having ex Zebra premiership player and coach Andrew Collins whos knowledge of the vagaries of Beach Road Oval would be better than most esp with a howling NW wind blowing across the ground favoring the Sandringham end
In Collins time as a player at Sandy his coach Bob Keddie had lines drawn on the ground across the forward pockets where players were never to kick to or the fullback to kick out to those pockets in conditions like today.
In the past todays conditions always suited the Zebras but the molicoddled St Kilda players used to training mostly at Seaford and playing at the indoor Docklands wouldnt have liked todays difficult conditions one little bit.
North Port Oval with minimal protection can be another very windswept ground in September.

I see the VFL have corrected the starting times to 11.40 am still a shit time for senior clubs to be playing finals!Looking more and more like a seconds comp starting at curtain raiser times.
I listened to a couple of AFL games on radio over the weekend and on a number of occasions players were referred to as playing in the seconds or reserves no mention that the comp is actually called the VFL.

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Willy were great in first quarter with huge wind and defended well in second. Sandy were indirect. Great last quarter by sandy with a howling wind. Kicked some great goals. Sandy will be too good for Collingwood who can thank north for resting players stuffing up werribee. Hard for sandy if they beat Collingwood then have to face off against box hill which willdbe tough but still in race. Great atmosphere at beach road today. Peter faulks superb in defence.

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[quote=billythekid]

In the past todays conditions always suited the Zebras but the molicoddled St Kilda players used to training mostly at Seaford and playing at the indoor Docklands wouldnt have liked todays difficult conditions one little bit.

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I think Sandy have improved this year in difficult conditions, but Willi are pretty close to the best contested ball team in the comp, so a small ground mixed with tough conditions suits them well.

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I think the reaction is a little over the top, losing a qualifying final by 7 points is hardly the end of the season (or world). As recently as 2012, Geelong won the flag after losing the qualifying final.

That being said, the week off this time of the year is a huge advantage. Since the VFL introduced the final 8 in 2000, 24 of the 30 preliminary finals have been won by the team that had the week's rest.

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OMG, I thought that last quarter yesterday would NEVER end, Sandy hit the post twice and sprayed a number of other gettable shots, Sippos seemed to find space and is a booming kick, one behind he kicked in the second qtr must have travelled 80metres, still I thought our defence held up well with some timely marks right on the line in the last qtr plus great tackling and smothering, it's a game I won't forget in a hurry!

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