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wizardwaffle
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Just you saying that the Victorian Football Association is dead doesn't mean that it is dead either. That the competition is called another name now doesn't mean that it is dead. If what you say is the case wouldn't the Footscray Football Club be dead, and a new club the Western Bulldogs now exist.

I asked Google the below question:

Does the Victorian Football Association still exist?

Since 1995, the league has been administered by AFL Victoria (and its predecessors). In 2022, it will comprise 21 teams from throughout the eastern states, nine of which have a continuous VFA heritage.

The Victorian Football Association (VFA), now known as the Victorian Football League (VFL), commenced in 1877.

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billythekid
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It is  administered by the VFL and AFL Victoria and is NOT the VFA!

Does NOT have its own headquarters or the clubs having a say in running the bastardised comp that is the current VFL about the only compromise the AFL will begrudgingly accept is that the VFA existed from 1877 to 1995! 

I think you are forgetting the rancor and hatred that existed between the VFA and VFL for at least 90 years and as a VFA supporter for 70 plus years I lived and breathed through that whole era so to have  greedy big brother VFL now AFL eventually destroy the VFA which they thought would happen very quickly after the traitorous split in 1896 and again in 1925 when the took Footscray, North Melb and Hawthorn is quite galling.

The irony is of course that ALL the Victorian based AFL clubs and Sydney Swans all came from the VFA!

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blackrocker
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The new VFA is active ... https://vfa.vic.gov.au/

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wizardwaffle
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Because two organisations did not get along at one stage means that they can not get along ever. Wouldn't it bring into question the SANFL and SACA relationship which produced Football Park in Adelaide or the VFL/AFL and MCC relationship which produced Waverley Park. Sometimes the continuing of rancor and hatred which has happened for over 90 years seems meaningless. 

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billythekid
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And sometimes a fighting spirit is needed if you want to keep your integrity as an organisation a club and a person.

As the greatest VFA President Alex Gillion once said in the 1980s about joining the the VFL/AFL and being what was being offered by the then VFL was to be part of the reserves comp. "I would prefer to die standing up for my principles than be on my  knees begging for small mercies.And he was right 100%

Oh the irony is 30 years later as that is what we have is the few ex VFA clubs still playing that they are playing in a very compromised AFL reserves comp.

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wizardwaffle
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A compromised competition where Port Melbourne and Williamstown have won the two of the past five premierships. Non-aligned clubs and Reserve clubs are not the only clubs that win the premierships.

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MegaA
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Wizard I respect your opinion  as I do Billys. I feel that one must remember though that although Port and Williamstown have won a premiership each in the past 7 seasons the competition has changed immensely since then with more hurdles for the stand alones to overcome. Since Port won in 2017 the salary cap has been significantly dropped, the reserve competition has been scrapped and stand alone lists numbers have dropped  in numbers and at a minimum 12 players on the list have to be under 22 years of age with 6 of those having to play each week. Any one of these changes individually is a huge hindrance to the stand alones chances but accumatevily these changes make the stand alones chances significantly tougher. What frustrates players, fans and members of these clubs is that none of these clubs would be in favour of any of these changes yet they are powerless to oppose them and they are done without any regard to the implications for our clubs whose ultimate goal is on field success. 

Some might think /say I'm having a rant because Port lost another match but truth is in the current climate you have a environment which makes it extremely difficult to remain relevant- look at Williamstown,  they are struggling after playing in every preliminary final the past 10 ??? years. 

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wizardwaffle
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All I was asking is we put together an internet version of a Muesum for the history of the VFA. If Billy idea is true a muesum would more important to remember the now dead competition. However we see the competition is going, we have to remember what has happened and not argue if the competition still goes on. Because if we continue to argue if the competition is still going on what we want to remember will be forgotten.

The thread name is Creation of a muesum for the Victorian Football Association.

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NorthPort
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Wizard, I'm with you. The competition has been continuous, despite the insulting name change.  The fact that the running of the comp has changed to that of being run by the AFL does not dissolve the competition.

The addition of clubs that previously played in the VFA, when the VFSL comp dissolved in 2000 does not change that in my opinion either. Their comp ended and they joined the VFA /VFL. 

I just wish the name of the competition was restored to the VFA name.  It would do wonders for our identity and history. 

Go Cobras Go and Away we Go! 

 

 


* It's time to restore the VFA name.

billythekid
Last seen: 18 hours 54 min ago
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What I'm saying the VFA comp does not exist in its original form/name but the the Former VFA clubs do esp the standalone ones and yes it is a nice pipe dream to think that one day the the old VFA could be resurrected again but I fear it is now never going to happen.

As per your VFA Museum there was a lot of important old material (photos/documents/trophies etc) at VFA House in Jolimont and I suppose that would have ended up with the AFL when they sold the building and God knows what would have happened to it after that!

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