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Friday June 30
Brisbane Lions v Richmond 11:05AM Brighton Homes Arena, QLD
Sydney Swans v Geelong 4:05PM, SCG
Saturday July 1
Werribee Tigers v Sandringham Zebras, 1:05PM Avalon Airport Oval,
Carlton v Northern Bullants 2:05PM, Ikon Park,
Box Hill Hawks v Port Melbourne, 2:05PM, Box Hill City Oval,
Footscray vs Coburg, 2:35PM, DSV Stadium
Sunday July 2
Frankston v Collingwood, 12:00PM, Kinetic Stadium,
Casey Demons v GWS Giants, 12:05PM, Casey Fields
North Melbourne v Williamstown, 12:35pm, Arden Street Oval
Essendon v Gold Coast Suns, 1:05PM, Windy Hill
fstn v coll, hopefully the ch7 crew set up their cameras on the grandstand facing the hill. i dont think they will, but it would certainly look better for tv seeing the big crowd on the hill rather than a half empty grandstand
need a televised night game from frankston park - why give us 'broadcast quality' lights if they're never used for broadcasts?
Yes there are limited options to actually use broadcast level lighting.
I doubt they would use them for streaming platforms and Channel 7 don't do our night games. They are realistically going to be used for AFL pre-season and AFLW games.
The cameras definitely need to be facing the hill. 👍
North Melbourne v Williamstown is match of the round I reckon.
Info for those going to Kinetic Stadium on Sunday . Hoping for a big crowd
Venue and Time Change
Footscray vs Coburg moved from ETU Stadium to DSV Stadium,Williamstown remaining on Saturday now starting at 2:35pm
WERRIBEE vs SANDRINGHAM
Saturday 1 July, 1:05pm, Avalon Airport Oval
Head-to-head: Sandringham 32-27. At Avalon Airport Oval: Werribee 17-12. Streak: Werribee 1
WERRIBEE
B: W. Lual (12), N. Cooper (18), L. Pinnuck (9)
HB: M. Sodomaco (3), N. Coughlan (5), S. Clohesy (35)
C: K. Declase (15), T. Gribble (4), B. Malual (22)
HF: S. Mannagh (6), H. Garoni (1), J. Henderson (8)
F: N. Hayes (7), J. Boyd (10), H. Grintell (16)
R: K. Annand (36), D. Brew (29), N. Lever (28)
INT: J. Clark (27), S. Azzi (19), D. Cassar (33), S. Paea (32), M. Keast (57)
EMG: E. Ajang (39), J. Porter (21), J. Riding (34), M. Selsby (14), A. Deng (54), C. Byrne (43), F. Young (20)
IN: S. Azzi, H. Grintell, B. Malual, S. Paea
OUT: K. Gray (hip), B. Henderson (adductor), C. McLeod (hamstring), J. Porter
SANDRINGHAM
B: J. Van Es (31), Z. Cordy (82), O. Adams (27)
HB: A. Seaton (50), T. Milne (61), D. Mackenzie (66)
C: J. Billings (1), L. Connolly (37), V. Zagari (58)
HF: J. Segar (71), O. Hotton (56), M. Harms (78)*
F: T. Blamires (76), J. Lohmann (64), T. Owens (55)
R: M. Heath (42), D. Hipwell (51), Z. Jones (3)
INT: T. Highmore (34), O. Lowe (59), J. Bytel (23), B. Paton (29), N. Gown (65)
EMG: M. Hawkins (69), B. Watson (70), S. Latreille (53), W. Dunne (79), R. Virtue (53)
IN: N. Gown, B. Paton, J. Segar
OUT: T. Campbell (AFL), J. Peris (AFL), I. Keeler (managed)
BOX HILL HAWKS vs PORT MELBOURNE
Saturday 1 July, 2:05pm, Box Hill City Oval
Head-to-head: Port Melbourne 53-24-1. At Box Hill City Oval: Port Melbourne 26-13. Streak: Box Hill Hawks 1
BOX HILL HAWKS
B: J. Thorpe (57), D. Grainger-Barras (24), B. Macdonald (42)
HB: H. Morrison (1), C. Jiath (9), L. Bramble (16)
C: H. Hustwaite (44), F. Maginness (32), N. Long (27)
HF: J. Bennetts (41), J. Serong (29), J. O'Sullivan (43)
F: B. Ryan (46), C. Tucker (45), J. Koschitzke (23)
R: M. Ramsden (38), C. Stephens (21), C. Mackenzie (28)
INT: D. Mascitti (50), E. Phillips (60), C. Porter (55), D. Murr (67)*, C. Brown (66)
EMG: M. Hall (61), L. Coghlan (74), K. Agosta (78), J. Arundell (70), T. Waack (64)
IN: L. Bramble, C. Jiath, J. Koschitzke, C. Mackenzie, D. Murr, J. O'Sullivan, C. Tucker
OUT: F. Greene, J. Ward, C. Wingard (AFL), J. Morris, F. O'Hara (managed), H. Beasley (knee), J. Rule
NEW: Darcy Murr, 19, 177cm, 77kg, Frankston YCW
PORT MELBOURNE
B: J. Weidemann (39), E. Phillips (30), J. O'Sullivan (18)
HB: T. Cameron (24), F. Rosman (3), Z. Adams (33)
C: H. Stubbings (12), T. Hird (4), A. Anastasio (19)
HF: K. Viccars (25), A. Manton (16), J. Gasper (26)
F: F. Flockart (27), M. Signorello (17), J. Green (14)
R: S. Naismith (10), D. Clarke (2), H. Hooper (37)
INT: A. Curry (36), N. Holmes (5), J. Johnston (20), N. Burke (11), A. Fyfe (1)
EMG: C. Stackelberg (22), T. Hofert (21), C. Walker (29), O. Manton (41), J. May (28), J. Cucinotta (15), S. Collins (9)
IN: N. Burke, T. Cameron, J. Johnston, S. Naismith
OUT: B. Milford (ankle), N. Stuhldreier (ankle), J. Cucinotta, T. Hofert
CARLTON vs NORTHERN BULLANTS
Saturday 1 July, 2:05pm, IKON Park
Head-to-head: Carlton 4-1. At IKON Park: Carlton 2-0. Streak: Carlton 1
CARLTON
B: L. Parks (63), L. Young (33), S. Durdin (38)
HB: L. Cowan (26), C. Marchbank (22), L. Plowman (20)
C: J. Binns (32), G. Hewett (29), L. O'Brien (4)
HF: J. Honey (36), B. Ronke (67), J. Motlop (3)
F: L. McMahon (52), B. Crocker (57), H. Lemmey (31)
R: H. O'Keeffe (40), P. Dow (2), J. Carroll (16)
INT: D. Porter (72)*, H. Ramshaw (51), P. Dozzi (53), T. Leiu (55), N. Cahill (54)
EMG: H. Gill (62), L. Prout (74), M. Lewis (58), J. Lefroy (79), B. Kuipers (60), D. Hogg (59)
IN: P. Dow, S. Durdin, T. Leiu, C. Marchbank, L. Plowman, D. Porter, B. Ronke
OUT: J. Silvagni (AFL), D. Akuei (concussion), Z. Fisher (injured), H. Gill, B. Kuipers, L. Prout, H. Sinnott
NORTHERN BULLANTS
B: S. Johnson (7), L. Kolar (37), W. Sexton (9)
HB: P. Fairlie (8), D. O'Dwyer (20), E. Mantas (40)
C: H. Grace (38), J. Velissaris (3), M. King (10)
HF: D. Laurie (35), J. Buchanan (50), J. Barling (21)
F: B. Holian (23), S. El-Hawli (18), B. Hurley (25)
R: F. Maley (36), C. Wild (32), M. Tessari (46)
INT: P. Gentile (34), D. Fritsch (12), B. Ryan (41), T. Kelly (45), D. Strnak (31)
EMG: J. Newitt (44), M. Edwards (15), P. Lewis-Smith (16)
IN: D. Fritsch, B. Holian, D. Laurie, D. Strnak
OUT: B. Ham (foot), J. Roumeliotis (shoulder), N. Honey, P. Lewis-Smith
NEW: Darcy Fritsch, 24, 194cm, 92kg, Coldstream/Williamstown; Ben Holian, 22, Strathmore; Daniel Strnak, 26, Point Cook Centrals.
FOOTSCRAY BULLDOGS vs COBURG
Saturday 1 July, 2:35pm, DSV Stadium
Head-to-head: Footscray 7-2. At DSV Stadium: Never Met. Streak: Footscray 6
FOOTSCRAY BULLDOGS
B: C. Clarke (8), J. Busslinger (5), N. Drummond (51)
HB: J. Bruce (17), J. Gilbee (69), L. Cleary (36)
C: R. McComb (27), L. Sullivan (53), O. Baker (13)
HF: D. Bedendo (26), B. Khamis (24), J. Chatfield (52)
F: C. Raak (40), A. Jones (32), S. Darcy (10)
R: J. Sweet (41), E. MacPherson (67), J. Garner (55)
INT: E. Hunt (72), S. Willoughby (73), C. MacIsaac (56), D. Orgill (50), C. Smith (74)*
EMG: J. Kellett (57), K. Stretton (66), J. Patullo (71), C. Craig-Peters (61)
IN: O. Baker, D. Bedendo, S. Darcy, J. Gilbee, E. Hunt, R. McComb
OUT: R. Gardner, J. O'Donnell, C. Poulter (AFL), H. Crozier (hamstring), H. Gallagher (finger), R. Smith (foot)
COBURG
B: C. Beasley (8), L. Walker (25), H. Nolan (6)
HB: B. Jepson (21), L. Nelson (1), J. Corigliano (2)
C: M. Simpson (27), F. Gentile (4), M. Podhajski (10)
HF: K. Weightman (26), J. D'Intinosante (7), N. Boucher (17)
F: W. Bella (31), T. McKenzie (3), A. Clarke (12)
R: A. Gundry (44), H. McGlashan (15), L. Bailey (47)
INT: B. Gillard (11), M. Kennedy (24), B. Rigoni (32), J. Bowne (16), D. Johnston (41)
EMG: M. Thompson (42), T. Warren (30), J. Baddeley-Kelly (19), T. Jepson (20), B. Andrews (36)
IN: C. Beasley, J. Bowne, M. Simpson
OUT: I. Dammersmith, S. Mason (concussion), M. Thompson
FRANKSTON vs COLLINGWOOD
Sunday 2 July, 12:00pm, Kinetic Stadium
Head-to-head: Collingwood 12-4. At Kinetic Stadium: Collingwood 7-2. Streak: Collingwood 5
FRANKSTON
B: T. Barlow (3), J. Smith (25), J. Voss (13)
HB: B. O'Leary (10), A. Grant (19), P. Roseby (23)
C: R. Stoddart (15), W. Fordham (7), K. Owens (5)
HF: L. Reidy (33), J. Butland (36), B. Lambert (17)
F: C. Nayna (9), M.Williams (4), M. Johnson (24)
R: J. Rendell (16), C. Riley (22), T. Marotta (47)
INT: L. Riley (21), J. Davies (46), S. Quirk (11), M. Szybkowski (2), R. Jacobs (31)
EMG: J. Stern (42), J. Shinners (35), T. Roberts (44)
IN: A. Grant, T. Marotta, C. Nayna, R. Stoddart
OUT: J. Florent (ankle), J.Lloyd (quad), T. Mynott (personal), J. Stern
COLLINGWOOD
B: J. Ryan (24), J.Eyre (59), T. Ruscoe (21)”
HB: N. Jetta (54), R. Penny (62)*, T. Bianco (8)
C: A. Draper (19), J. Carmichael (45), W. Kelly (20)
HF: C. Murley (27), J. Ginnivan (33), T. Wilson (12)
F: N. Kreuger (15), R. McInnes (26), A. Johnson (40)
R: A. Begg (39), E. Allan (16), F. Macrae (18)
INT: J. Richards (29), O. Steene (44), T. Wilson (56), D. McStay (11), C. Hustwaite (55)
EMG: C. Maxted (66), L. Tardrew (51), C. Mulvogue (68), J. Tomasiello (61), J. Booth (53), V. Blackmore-Moore (49), L. Purcell (65), J. Longmire (57)
IN: A. Johnson, D. McStay, R. Penny
OUT: C. Mulvogue, L. Tardrew, R. Voulanas
NEW: Rye Penny, 19, 186cm, 80kg, Gisborne/Calder Cannons
CASEY DEMONS vs GWS GIANTS
Sunday 2 July, 12:05pm, Casey Fields
Head-to-head: GWS Giants 1-0. At Casey Fields: GWS Giants 1-0. Streak: GWS Giants 1
CASEY DEMONS
B: J. Adams (26), A. Tomlinson (20), T. Freeman (67)
HB: D. Smith (34), D. Turner (42), B. Howes (22)
C: R. Steele (54), L. Dunstan (27), T. Woewodion (40)
HF: C. Spargo (9), J. Schache (19), A. Moniz-Wakefield (45)
F: J. Melksham (18), J. van Rooyen (2), B. Laurie (16)
R: W. Verrall (28), M. White (52), J. Jordon (23)
INT: N. Moodie (74)*, J.Munro (47), G. Grey (68), O. Sestan (38), M.Jefferson (21)
EMG: R. Baldi (56), J. Bell (73), T. Edwards (58), H. Neocleous (75), R. Koo (61), R. Valentine (65), T. McRae (76)
IN: T. Freeman, J. Jordon, J. van Rooyen
OUT: J. Bowey, B. Brown, J. Harmes (AFL)
GWS GIANTS
B: W. Clark (56), P. Davis (1), J. Wehr (10)
HB: J. Anderson (51), C. Fleeton (29), L. Aleer (21)
C: J. Gillbee (42), C. Stone (18), J. Peatling (20)
HF: J. Pavlidis (48), T. McMullin (31), A. Cadman (5)
F: W. Derksen (45), M. Gruzewski (35), W. Shaw (55)
R: M. Flynn (30), B. O'Connor (52), H. Rowston (24)
INT: D. Edmends (50), D. Posthuma (67)*, N. Madden (41), J. Creighton (54), R. Hebron (47)
EMG: B. Romensky, A. Mathieson, G. Varagiannis, D. Jones-Hughes, B. Rauter, W. Sabolch, N. Wardius
IN: A. Cadman, P. Davis, J. Gillbee, T. McMullin, D. Posthuma
OUT: I. Cumming, J. Fahey (AFL), J. Glanvill (achilles), T. McCaffrey (finger), M. Ryan (shoulder)
NORTH MELBOURNE vs WILLIAMSTOWN
Sunday 2 July, 12:35pm, Arden Street Oval
Head-to-head: North Melbourne 45-26-5. At Arden Street Oval: North Melbourne 27-6-2. Streak: North Melbourne 1
NORTH MELBOURNE
B: L. Young (17), K. Dawson (42), J. Archer (34)
HB: J. Goater (31), A. Hall (43), F. Perez (39)
C: C. Taylor (5), C. Lazzaro (35), K. Turner (28)
HF: R. Hansen (46), J. Watkins (56), C. Harvey (37)
F: P. Spicer (36), B. Drury (41), J. Edwards (32)
R: T. Xerri (38), B. Cunnington (10), D. Howe (35)
INT: C. Downie (47), B. Davis (50), S. Lowson (60), T. Sellers (62), T. O'Sullivan (80)*
EMG: L. Butler (49), B. Bath (58), J. McCormick (84)
IN: J. Goater, T. O'Sullivan, P. Spicer, K. Turner
OUT: D. Tucker (AFL), L. Butler, J. Lienert (managed), J. McCormick
WILLIAMSTOWN
B: J. Greiser (18), F. O'Dwyer (17), M. Hore (3)
HB: M. Philpot (19), O. McDonald (8), J. Pickess (22)
C: C. Polson (5), T. Triffett (23), J. Toner (14)
HF: D. Henderson (36), C. Ellison (24), N. Gadsby (13)
F: C. Preston (15), J. Ottavi (20), M. Cox (21)
R: T. Downie (11), H. Jones (2), J. Cousins (10)
INT: J. McHale (32), L. Conway (34), N. Colenso (35), N. Ebinger (26), B. Jolley (4)
EMG: W. Jury (2), D. Andrews (7), L. Godden (37), J. Pongracic (1)
IN: J. Cousins, B. Jolley, J. McHale
OUT: W. Jury, J. Pongracic, Z. Pritchard
ESSENDON vs GOLD COAST SUNS
Sunday 2 July, 1:05pm, Windy Hill
Head-to-head: Gold Coast Suns 1-0. At Windy Hill: Gold Coast Suns 1-0. Streak: Gold Coast Suns 1
ESSENDON
B: N. Hind (19), K. Baldwin (26), C. McBride (41)
HB: A. Lord (28), L. Hayes (18), R. Montgomerie (38)
C: M. D'Ambrosio (42), E. Tsatas (5), N. Cox (13)
HF: T. Wanganeen (40), P. Voss (39), A. Davey (33)
F: A. McDonald-Tipungwuti (43), J. Jorgensen (56), A. Munkara (45)
R: N. Bryan (24), B. Bernacki (59), B. Cootee (57)
INT: D. Shiel (5), J. Fitzgerald (77), C. McCarty (79), T. Phillips (55), M. Kiraly (78)*
EMG: B. Archard (50), J. Brown (63), W. Madden (66), J. Brown (61), S. Conforti (53), W. Madden (66)
IN: N. Bryan, D. Shiel
OUT: B. Archard, R. Loton
GOLD COAST SUNS
B: L. Johnston (38), C. Graham (46), S. Lemmens (23)
HB: J. Farrar (50), J. Stein (42), C. Constable (33)
C: O. Faulkhead (37), A. Davies (5), A. Sexton (6)
HF: J. Tsitas (21), B. McLaughlin (43), T. Berry (16)
F: M. Chol (1), S. Day (12), C. Burgess (19)
R: N. Moyle (49), E. Hollands (36), B. Uwland (32)
INT: J. Sharp (20), S. Brock (45), C. Blakely (26), C. Budarick (35), F. Hay (54)*
EMG: J. Young (53), J. Eckersley (56), C. Lake (61), T. Dawson (55), C. Harrington (52), R. Atkins (2)
IN: C. Budarick, C. Burgess, C. Constable, F. Hay
OUT: J. Eckersley, W. Graham, B. O'Brien, J. Rogers
NEW: Finn Hay, 18, 180cm, Palm Beach-Currumbin/Suns Academy
BRISBANE LIONS vs RICHMOND
Friday 30 June, 11:05am, Brighton Homes Arena
Head-to-head: Level 1-1. At Brighton Homes Arena: Never Met. Streak: Brisbane Lions 1
BRISBANE LIONS
B: J. Prior (20), D. Gardiner (27), J. Madden (14)
HB: D. Joyce (41), T. Abberley (48), J. Budarick (51)
C: S. Brain (34), K. Dunkley (52), H. Sharp (22)
HF: B. Coleman (13), L. Rayner (57), J. Tunstill (29)
F: J. Gunston (19), D. Fort (32), K. Lohmann (1)
R: H. Smith (25), N. Answerth (43), J. Lyons (17)
INT: K. Lane (45), B. Gordon (47), D. McDowell-White (50), O. Collins (61), B. McDonald (64)*
EMG: J. Hille (55), P. McCarthy (58), M. Hollier (62), J. Cooper (63), J. Lewis (65)
IN: O. Collins, D. Fort, B. Gordon, J. Gunston, K. Lohmann, L. Rayner
OUT: C. Ah Chee (AFL), N. Cockatoo (hamstring), T. Fullarton (hamstring), W. Buzza (ilness), B. Reville (QAFL representative team)
RICHMOND
B: J. Bauer (43), M. El Nour (57), J. Trezise (36)
HB: S. Banks (41), T. Brown (30), H. Ralphsmith (13)
C: A. Johnson (51), L. Street (55), B. Melville (54)
HF: M. Coulthard (26), S. Green (48), M. Rioli (10)
F: B. Nyuon (47), C. Olden (58), K. Bradtke (37)
R: I. Soldo (20), T. Dow (27), T. Sonsie (40)
INT: M. Lefau (72), A. Hicks (52), J. Nathan (65), L. Teal (66), H. Broderick (69)*
EMG: M. Yassine (80), W. Bravo (70), G. McDonagh (53)
IN: H. Broderick, J. Nathan, H. Ralphsmith, M. Rioli, L. Teal
OUT: T. Brindley (injured), B. Cooper, M. Faimalo, C. Naish, H. White
SYDNEY SWANS vs GEELONG CATS
Friday 30 June, 4:05pm, SCG
Head-to-head: Sydney 17-14-5. At SCG: Never Met. Streak: Geelong 1
SYDNEY SWANS
B: W. Edwards (28), T. McCartin (30), W. Gould (17)
HB: L. Rankin (41), H. Arnold (38), J. Magor (32)
C: C. Mitchell (35), C. Warner (37), R. Clarke (4)
HF: H. Hall-Kahan (45), B. Laws (57), E. Grace (65)
F: R. Fitzroy (68)*, J. Buller (47), C. Owen (40)
R: L. McAndrew (46), N. Shipley (52), D. Stephens (3)
INT: M. Geddes (61), J. Crocker (54), J. Bartholomaeus (53), H. Morrison (55), J. Tidemann (63)
EMG: Ham. Morrison (56), M. Velthuis (60), C. Webster (62), O. Davis (66)
IN: R. Clarke, J. Crocker, B. Laws
OUT: T. Longmire (knee), O. Davis, C. Webster
NEW: Byron Laws, 19, Manly-Warringah
GEELONG CATS
B: W. Sheahan (72), B. Van De Heuvel (55), D. Capiron (50)
HB: J. Bowes (12), T. Feely (68), O. Mullin (34)
C: S. Menegola (27), M. Hardie (41), C. Whyte (11)
HF: O. Riccardi (21), S. Neale (33), J. Chalcraft (57)
F: O. Dempsey (28), T. Clohesy (40), P. Foster (19)
R: W. Christie (71), B. Parfitt (3), M. Knevitt (10)
INT: B. Lloyd (74), B. Ham (47), J. Quick (54), K. Annand (87)*, M. Cousins (69)
EMG: M. Marriott (56), T. Norton (67), D. Schilder (51), M. Chafer (61), T. Lovell (78), J. Evans (65)
IN: J. Bowes, B. Ham, B. Lloyd, O. Riccardi, W. Sheahan
OUT: O. Murdoch (knee), A. Byrne, M. Herbert, H. Lucas (injured), J. Evans
NEW: William Sheahan, 19, Birchip-Watchem/Leopold
UMPIRES
Brisbane Lions vs Richmond
FIELD: 3.Oliver Pye, 36.Sam Somerville, 43.James Strybos (AFL). BOUNDARY: Alex Donoghue, Delsen Jones, Will Morris. GOAL: Lachlan Borthwick, Matt Bridges (AFL).
Sydney Swans vs Geelong Cats
FIELD: 10.Chris Brackenrig, 19.Cam Williams, 40.Dean Garroway. BOUNDARY: Ben Duce, Scott Hansford, Charles Powell. GOAL: Nick Ford, Alex Strassberg.
Footscray defeated Coburg by 32 points at Williamstown yesterday in front of a crowd around 250.
Footscray 17-6(108) def Coburg 11-10(76)
Good old Collingwood forever!
I have not seen a crowd the size of the one today at Frankston since to glory days of the VFA 1970 - 80s.
Pity it takes an AFL powerhouse who are most likely make up 95% of the crowd to pull a decent crowd to the current VFL! Sadly it will be a one off.
It reminds me of when Nathan Buckley also played in a match at Williamstown a while back!
To all the hardworking volunteers at FFC, thank you for all you put in to make today a success. Yes, mostly feral supporters, but it was a whopping crowd for a 12pm match. Probably the biggest we've seen at Frankston in many years.
To the playing group.....well, these are moments where you have an opportunity to show the world what you're made of, to put your club on the map as a serious destination for players and supporters alike. I'd like to ask each of you what you think you did with that opportunity today? By far the worst performance of the year, and possibly the worst since we were resurrected. Selfish, downhill skiing football by most of you, and I can't for the life of me work out why? I'd have thought given James Rendell's courage in playing today, you'd have wanted to make a fist of it just for his sake if nothing else......but the trademark Frankston intensity, tackling and attack on the loose ball was just nowhere to be seen. Sloppy disposal whenever we had it, and I can't count the times I heard players turn on each other for not doing the team thing. Just shattered by that effort.
To the FFC girls team, great win over Bass Coast who were undefeated, definitely the highlight of the day.
Yes it was a disappointing day on the field probably was Frankston’s worst performance of the year but please give Collingwood credit their first half they played great footy and never gave Frankston a chance.
It was a fantastic day after the morning drizzle thanks to everyone who turned up and make today off the field an outstanding success. It was a great crowd.
I hope it came across on TV how good Kinetic Stadium can be?
Tike for a rest after a big weekend and get ready for Thursday
In reply to Good old Collingwood forever! by billythekid
Buckley played two games for Willi and unfortunately neither of them was at Williamstown - one was at Box Hill (where they ran out of beer TWICE!) and the other was at Port