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Robbo

Certainly not fake news Bearsman

They are not happy in NEAFL and think this is a logic step given their women’s team already play in VFLW

Watch this space

Robbo

Certainly not fake news Bearsman

They are not happy in NEAFL and think this is a logic step given their women’s team already play in VFLW

Watch this space

Bearsman
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Thanks Robbo. Will watch with interest how this unfolds....

Wally from Will...
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NT Thunder joining the VFL might be a temporary move if this proposed competition ever gets off the ground. Port and Willi seem to be included but no mention of the other VFL stand-alones. Interesting times ahead ....  

Brisbane Lions endorse proposal for new national reserves competition

Brisbane superiority in the NEAFL competition has created an issue for the club, which will support any changes to the national second-tier structure. Brisbane has backed the proposal for a new two-conference national second-tier competition as concerns mount over the NEAFL’s suitability to prepare players for the AFL.

 

 

The Lions’ NEAFL dominance in 2019 has become a problem for coach Chris Fagan, who has resorted to playing boom recruit Marcus Adams out of position in attack to try to build form and fitness for an AFL call up.

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The AFL has briefed the clubs on a proposal for a new competition slated for either 2021 or 2022 which includes multiple models – an AFL reserves competition or a two-conference competition which includes the Queensland, Victorian and NSW AFL sides, plus VFL clubs Williamstown and Port Melbourne, NEAFL clubs Southport, NT Thunder and Canberra, and potentially a side from Tasmania.

It is understood the WA Football Commission, which runs the WAFL and also holds the licenses for the West Coast Eagles and Fremantle, are reluctant to weaken their state league by agreeing to a national reserves competition.

But Queensland’s two AFL clubs would support either model.

Lions CEO Greg Swann said he would support the proposal when it was raised at the upcoming CEO’s conference in August.

“Absolutely, we just need better competition and the better competition for us is playing against other AFL clubs,’’ he said.

 

Brisbane recruit Marcus Adams isn’t getting proper match conditioning in the NEAFL. Picture: Getty Images

Gold Coast was briefed by AFL football operations manager Stephen Hocking.

Hocking was unavailable for comment on Wednesday night.

Gold Coast also supports the introduction of an elite second-tier competition but want to see more detail on list rules.

CEO Mark Evans said for any national second-tier competition to work effectively, the AFL clubs needed list provisions for designated reserves-only players.

The size of AFL injury lists creates a major disparity in the NEAFL, especially during the academy series when the best underage players, who would normally fill the vacancies in the side, are unavailable.

If a club has a long injury list they are forced to top-up with 17-year-olds who did not make the cut for the academy squads and the standard drops.

 

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It also affects the QAFL competition which relies on players who miss NEAFL selection filtering back to their original clubs.

However, when an AFL club has few injuries, like Brisbane who will only have one or two players unavailable this week, other AFL clubs or stand-alone NEAFL clubs cannot compete.

After Brisbane’s 97-point win over Redlands at the Gabba, Fagan was asked about Adams’ readiness for an AFL recall and admitted to some frustrations at the lopsided nature of the competition.

“It is a challenging one, they got tested in the first quarter and a half where I think it was a quite close game but after that it wasn’t,’’ he said.

“We deliberately moved Josh Walker up to the forward line for a while then we moved Marcus Adams up there for a bit just so they could get a touch of the ball.’’

NorthPort
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Well that will be sure to kill off all VFA clubs, splitting the competition up I would have thought. I'd like to see the actual presentation put to the AFL clubs.

 


Wally from Will...
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Well, if the AFL clubs keep pushing for some sort of change to second-tier football then surely it will happen, but what form it would take is still undecided by the sound of it. It would be an expensive exercise flying and accommodating Reserves players and officials all around the country, although WA (and probably SA) will possibly maintain the current structures in those States, meaning it would effect the NSW, QLD, VIC and Tasmanian teams, and possibly NT and ACT. 2020 could possibly be the last year of the VFL as we know it. 

MegaA
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Just thinking about this - you have 8 non Afl affiliated s.a. clubs, 5 vic, 18 afl reserve clubs, and a tassie club promised entry into the vfl. In total 32 clubs. Bold idea I know but what if they got those 32 clubs and split them into 2 competitions based on geography with the home and away starting and finishing the same time and then a finals series mixing the two competitions. I.e. 8th placed side in 1 comp playing 1st in other, 7th v 2nd in opposing comp and so on... 

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NorthPort
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It all sounds too costly. I would not like to see Port Melbourne (and Williamstown) leaving the VFA to play in this competition unless there is no alternative. We'd be signing the death warrant of other great VFA clubs. 

I'd rather see the VFA/VFL and SANFL come together to form an altogether new comp. 

 


MegaA
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18 rounds, 9 will be home, 4 v the other vfa clubs at their home, that's 13 games in vic. You could schedule a couple / a few of the remaining 5 games v a vic AFL 2nds side away therefore if fixtured correctly may be able to play in this comp with very little interstate travel. 

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Bearsman
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If Im ready things correctly it looks like the only 2 clubs invited to the new league are Port and Willy, with the rest left for dead...

There would be 7 teams left, Werribee, Coburg, Frankston would be in a position to keep playing in the VFL, but Sandy, Preston, Box Hill, Springvale FC, would have to start from scratch to field teams.

Hard to see it happening. My guess is next year will be the end of the VFL.

Seems Gilligan has changed his mind about the AFL Reserves league gbeing too expensive. This is what he said in Nov 2017.

https://www.saints.com.au/news/2017-11-02/no-plans-for-national-reserves-comp-says-afl-chief

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