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iceman
What would the VFA be like now?
I was having a browse throught the Scorpions website and noticed an article about Springvales '87 flag. Reading through it highlighted the VFA's attempt in '87 to seperate the league into 2 permanent divisions, and not have promotion/relegation. http://www.scorpions.com.au/1987-vs.-port-melbourne.html Division 1 would have been made up by: Box Hill Coburg Dandenong Frankston Geelong West Oakleigh Port Melbourne Prahan Preston Ringwood Sandringham Williamstown And division 2 being: Berwick Brunswick Camberwell Caulfield Moorabin Mordialloc Northcote Springvale Sunshine Waverley Werribee I suppose it was an attempt 90 years later to do what the VFL had done. It's interesting to note that Springale (Casey) and Werribee are the only teams that remain from the proposed permanent division 2. 7 of the 12 division 1 sides remain in the VFL. I doubt it would have worled to any great effect anyway, as by that stage alot of clubs were already starting down the barrel, not sure that being in a permanent division 1 wouls have saved Dandenong, Geelong West or kept Prahran in? How in depth was Ringwoods commitment, the VFA had wanted an outer east team for a while by that stage? Definately glad Springvale fought hard to stay in, particularly after only joining the VFA 5 years previous, and ended up winning the flag that year!
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The VFA was very close to forming three divisions in the late 70s and early 80s. They chased Vermont, East Ringwood, Greensborough and Springvale. Kilsyth and Springvale were admitted in 1982 with Berwick and Moorabbin joining the following year. If they admitted maybe three more teams there definatley would have been a third division and who knows what we would have had today. Maybe four divisions ? I would have love to have had a couple of divisions with over thirty teams in the VFA. Much better than the current set up. Imagine the relegation battles in the first or even second division. There would have been many tough suburban rivalry. Not much rivalry these days with the afl alignements.
iceman
I think Noble Park were not too far off the radar as well, Do you think we will ever see another club enter the VFL again?? Gone are the days that clubs are approached regularly to join the league. On club I have always though is Heidleberg. They have been rejected from the EFL twice, and here's a bit of footy trivia, they are older than Richmond football club, and also had the black jumper with yellow Sash before Richmond too! But I doubt any club would be too keen to join the VFL in its current state anyway!
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Noble Park and Heidelberg's names have been floated a few times. I went to a mates birthday party at East Ringwood sports club on the weekend and they do have a very good social sports club with a upper level balcony overlookin the ground. They have pokies as well as a tab. Noble Park has a gret sports club and flushed with funds. Very unlikley you would see any teams from the metro leagues joining the old vfa (vfl) especially with the current set up. If the afl reserves were to go solo and disafilliate with the old VfA clubs then you would most likley see the old VFA reincarnated with quite a few of the bigger metropolitan clubs as well as few country clubs joining. I cannot see the current vfl set up changing (maybe a few more alignment changes) in the next 3/4 years. Who nows what teams and setup the old VFA clubs wil be part of in 2015 ??? Easy enough to speculate but in 2015 can anyone safely say there will still be 14 teams with the same alingmets or same vfl competition as there is in 2008.
Dolphin
By 2015 there will not be the same number of AFL sides in Victoria, so that means that there must be change. North Ballarat, Box Hill, and Williamstown should all have concern for their alignments for this reason alone.
iceman
The VFL will have huge changes by 2015, and alot of this lies on the actions of the AFL, the more Victorian Afl clubs get shafted (which is what the AFL will try and do) the better that is for the VFL. More Victorians will become disinterested in the AFL, and still want to follow a high level of Football. I think the VFL will begin to slowly grow from now, and through all the changes (including 3rds or u/18's) will be better for it.