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jb
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Reserves: Williamstown v Box Hill
This should be a cracker, and hopefully the Mustang supporters will help beef up what should be a decent crowd at North Port on Saturday. Great rivalry now developing between the Mustangs and the Seagulls. The rivalry really started to take place in the 1989 final series, when Box Hill upset Willy in the qualifying final and nearly did it again in the prelim 2 weeks later - 2 great games of football. It gathered further momentum in a bloody first semi final in the mud at North Port in 1992, when Pastore became enemy number 1. And the 2003 seniors GF and 2006 reserves GF have added further to it.
Burger4Eva
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Gulls by 35 points
Stangaman
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JB , I`ll be there mate on Saturday being a mustang supporter, like 2006 we had a good supporter base on grand final day then & we`ll be there again in force . "GO BOXHILL"
Mustang
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Williamstown will go in as very short favourites, a 2 week break versus a 6 day break is a huge advantage, plus Willy reserves will theoretically have unrestricted access to AFL listed players with both the Bulldogs and Seagulls seniors still playing. Plus Willy's season record of 16 wins / 2 losses is much better than Box Hill's of 12 wins / 7 losses. That being said, as we saw 2 years ago, on the big day anything can happen. Box Hill just needs one or two breaks and it can pull off another upset. The one thing in the Mustangs favour is that it will go in with a very settled lineup, virtually unchanged over the past 3 finals, which is a big thing at this time of the year. [quote="jb"]Great rivalry now developing between the Mustangs and the Seagulls. ........ And the 2003 seniors GF and 2006 reserves GF have added further to it.[/quote] Actually the rivalry goes back a lot further than that - into the 50s - I think mainly because Box Hill has seemed to come up against Williamstown in so many of its big games over the years. jb I think you're drawing a long bow on the 2003 seniors GF though. Everyone knows Box Hill played Collingwood that day. :roll:
Mustang
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[quote="jb"]It gathered further momentum in a bloody first semi final in the mud at North Port in 1992, when Pastore became enemy number 1. [/quote] Gee I'd almost forgotten about that. The old grey matter loses its sharpness over the years. One of the most disgraceful things I've ever seen in Football - on and off the field. Pastore walked up to "Bomber" James behind the play and broke his jaw with a vicious straight right. James didn't even have his hands up; he didn't see it coming. Problem was the ABC cameras had lingered long enough to catch it beautifully. The VFA was forced to investigate and laid a striking charge. Hauled before the tribunal Pastore pleaded racial vilification as provocation and was given a reprimand (should have copped 8 weeks) after flagrant interference in the tribunal process by the VFA President - who by co-incidence had once upon a time been Williamstown President. Pastore got to play in his grand final but the football gods delivered some justice when Sandy won. Just showed what a joke of a competition the VFA became in its dying days.
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Can the super coach Ghazi get the Seadogs over the line????
footyman
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[quote="burraburger"] super coach Ghazi [/quote]A touch of sarcasm there perhaps? To be honest I reckon that Williamstown 2s side could almost coach themselves. Filled with talent.
Mustang
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[quote="Dale61"]Do you really think the result of the last H&A game wasn't staged? Maybe Williamstown gave some of the fringe players a final run for the season.[/quote] Hmm...the result was "staged". :roll: I suppose Williamstown gave a few of their fringe players a game in the '06 Grand Final as well?? That's why it is such a pleasure to beat your mob - you can never give credit where credit is due. It was a pity that the Williamstown and Collingwood alignment ended. The presence of a few Magpies supporters at Point Gellibrand at least had the effect of raising the average IQ of the crowd. :lol:
jb
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Gee Mustang, you've proved my point - there is plenty of rivalry between the clubs. I never saw the Pastore incident (i was in the outer), but realise it cant have been good based on the passionate abuse he got from Mustang supporters for the rest of his career. I very unusual act from Pas. Grant Smith copped 4 weeks from that match, and while a brilliant player, he was one guy who had a short fuse. I've already had an argument on the 2003 GF with Stanga i think. Cant get a rise from me on that one - I really enjoyed that year, and saw some great games of footy along the way.
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In 2006 Grand final we won it without any Hawthorn players in the side then what Williamstown had one Collingwood player in their side and still lost . I heard 2 weeks ago Willy had 5 Bulldog players against us thats why the margin could have been big against a very young Boxhill side .
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[quote="Stangaman"]In 2006 Grand final we won it without any Hawthorn players in the side then what Williamstown had one Collingwood player in their side and still lost . I heard 2 weeks ago Willy had 5 Bulldog players against us thats why the margin could have been big against a very young Boxhill side .[/quote] Box Hill won the 2006 GF because they played the conditions a lot smarter than Willy. The margin was not great but they played sensible wet weather footy and were never in real danger of losing on the day. Any AFL listed player eligible to play VFL Reserves finals is hardly likely to make much difference. The one Collingwood listed player in the 2006 GF (Billy Morrison) was de-listed at the end of the season, went to Port Melbourne the next year and struggled to get a game.

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