By the current fixture Rd 19 and Rd 20 are still unallocated TV games, but what options are there?
On the Saturdays these are the only matches:
Rd 19 Geelong v Sandringham AFL Curtain Raiser
Rd 19 North Ballarat v Williamstown
Rd 20 Geelong v Bendigo AFL Curtain Raiser
Rd 20 North Ballarat v Springvale
Take out the curtain raisers, do we really have to be left with two North Ballarat home matches against sides who are probably going to miss out on the finals? Seems very poor fixturing over these last rounds, say Round 19 Northern Bullants v Werribee will be a pearler but it is on a Sunday. In Round 20 Sandringham v Northern Bullants looks to be the pick of that round, but it is also scheduled for the Sunday. Any chance Football Vic might shuffle the fixture around to get these games on the Saturday?
And Port will have 6 TV matches out of 18 by the end of the season so we don't want them on again! Get sick of seeing them all the time, the only people it pleases are the army of bluerinsers in nursing homes.
I understand that the fixturing of the last 2 rounds is currently under review by the VFL.
teams want to play on sunday as more people come. sat 1pm dont get the crowds.
exactly!
Nice to hear it is under review. Pity it was designed so badly from the start. There should be two Saturday ABC options each of the last four weeks that are decided near the finals. Not one match each week and both at the same teams home ground!
Frankston will happily move one of their two matches to Saturday in Rd 19 and 20 won't they? We all know how much you love the ABC coverage Dolphin. Many times you have emphasised how important it is. I'm sure the Dolphins would like to forgo 500-1000 paying customers so that a few fence signs and jumper logos get on the telly. Might even get on there yourself ;)
I don't seem to recall evar have a personal crack at anybody!
Not sure why I should wear it when all I do, and have ever done, is pump this competition up.
I actually hate Saturday games, and would love the ABC to pick up a game on a SUnday but the simple fact is they won't.
And the game needs sponsorship money to help to fund it. and sponsors want some exposure for their buck. Its simple economics.
I think that was a pretty weak effort.
I can tell you that Frankston hate Saturdays, and it would cost them at least 1,000 through the gate. I figure that you can count so I won't bother with explaining the $ cost.
People can sit back and moan about the competition not getting the exposure that it wants through the Herald Sun, TV, The Age, or whatever, or they can get off there butts and try and do something about it.
I prefer to be in the second bunch, but hey, you make up your own mind what you prefer.
I could not give a rats A about self promotion, I just want the competition where it should be and am trying to do something about, so that people like you still have a club to follow.
Look at how many times I have posted on this site, including stuff like match reports etc, and then tell me which category I'm in.
Simple fact is Frankston a few years ago COMPLAINED that they didn't get on the TV enough. And given how you stick up for the TV games from a sponsors point of view, I thought you'd like an extra chance for exposure.
Don't know who complained about not enough TV, but I will take your word for it. At this point, as a stand alone club, Frankston are offered 2 home TV games.
They only take one because it doesn't suit the community/gate to play on Saturdays.
I have tried to point out that TV is needed from a competition point of view mostly.
TRU Energy woould be unlikely to commit anywhere near what they do if there was no TV. And a number of people here have argued that the competition should just tell the ABC to get stuffed and move the TV to Sunday.
I have simply tried to point out that if the ABC WILL ONLY televise Saturdays, then thats what we, the supporters, need to cop.
Telling the TV to go to hell will not help the competition. I could not care less about the ABC, (I already pay for the damn thing) but they do provide a service to this competition.
What got up me was what seemed to be a crack at me or Frankston. I just don't see the point in it.
I do not doubt for a second that you have provided a lot to this site, and provided support in your own way to the competition. The comment about sitting back and moaning was not directed at you. So as a result, I would put you in the second category.
I can be just like mans best friend. Take a kick at me, the club I support, or the competition that I want to see survive, and I'll bite.
Nothing personal!
The arrangement for two TV games being offered to Frankston as my understanding occurred after Frankston complained about lack of exposure. North Ballarat and Bendigo were in the same position (at the time stand alone clubs) and may have also argued for two as well (which they currently take up). But you would know more than me on that.
I love having access to the ABC TV game, I sit down and watch it during the week and it is terrific what they do, don't get me wrong. And the competition needs it I agree.
However, my gripe is with the 1pm starts, given crowds already stay away from Saturday games across the board in the VFL, and then TV games stop some more crowd coming because they can see it at home anyway, I feel that the 1pm start stops even more from showing up. And then we pick up Inside Footy and Phil Cleary writes about small crowds at TV games, or about wanting to see 4,000 pack into TEAC Oval for a Port v Sandy TV game, well it just isn't going to happen. On a Sunday at 2pm with no TV it might, but at 1pm on a Saturday against the TV coverage it won't.
My view is that 2 of the 3 things cannot be changed, but one of them can be. But the powers to be dont want to compete with channel 10's AFL coverage, fair enough, it would probably hurt the VFL ratings and lose an audience. At the end of the day sport in general is bowing to the demands of TV when it comes to fixturing, I guess the VFL is no different. I just hope they don't bow to the ABCs desire for Saturday Grand Finals.
I agree with you.
Only problem is that the ABC want 1.00 so they can fit the netball in.
Theres not a lot of bargaing power but you can try.
what to people think of next year the vfl play a thursday night game and have that on tv,no comp from afl should get good ratings and might get good crowds. maybe play at punt rd at 8pm so ch 2 can show thier news and current affairs first.