Dolphin wrote in an earlier topic:
"The experience with the new surface at Frankston last year suggests that this alone will be a major issue for you. A new surface takes time to bind, and the grass structure might look good on the surface but shifts and chops up significanlt more than established turf. So this will take time."
On the Scorpions website sting44 made the following comment this week:
"I checked out the surface at No 1 oval last Monday and it is first class. The Williamstown players also complemented the surface at No 2 oval."
I understand that the VFL oval (called the No 1 oval by sting44) has an even better surface than the No 2 oval which is where the match against Williamstown was played.
Hopefully Casey Fields will exceed Dolphin's expectations.
[i]footyman responded:
"And if I'm selling a house, I don't put it on the market with walls half painted and stains all over the carpet. I polish it up and make sure it's presentable before people come in and take a look.
That being said, the facility has the potential to be excellent, BUT if you open the thing up half done for the debut match in Round 4, people may be disappointed."[/i]
You have to live within your means, though. Most VFL football venues have had the benefit of decades to get to where they are today - an extension here, a toilet block there, a covered area on the outer, some trees planted around the boundary. Casey Fields will be where all the others are within a decade, and will be a lot better. But you have to start somewhere.
VFL football is not as healthy as it was in terms of primacy of sport, and this has had two main results:
- it doesn't have the revenues it used to get through attendances
- it doesn't have as much influence over the local Council has to deal with a wide range of sports and interests.
So, who do you think will pay to provide the facilities you utilise when you go to the footy?
The VFL complex at Casey Fields is around $4.5 million. Football doesn't have that sort of money available to pour into a suburban stadium, and relies on local Councils. The City of Casey has been a saviour for the Scorpions, and has put in millions of dollars. But they can only do so much at a time. I'm sure they'll do more when additional funds are available.
In the meantime, the Casey Scorpions are very happy with their new home and look forward to welcoming other teams and their supporters.
Lovely.
I accept all of the issues about the tempoary venue, and agree with everything you have said.
A temporary venue is simply that, and nobody should be too upset about the state of the roads etc.
But to charge $5 to get in to a practice match for a start is a disgrace.
To charge $5 to get in to a temporary venue without even toilets is even moreso.
This is the only real issue, and you left it alone.
Gee, thats a surprise!!
Self imposed ban?
If so, hahaha as if you'll last three weeks without bagging the Scorpions.[/quote]
I'm a man of my word
[quote:ee98520943="caseyscorp"]Casey Scorpions players, Williamstown players and Footyman give the surface the thumbs up.
Only Dophin expressing concern at this time.
On the basis of Footyman's advice re temperature at Casey Fields - wear a jacket if it's cold![/quote]
I didn't express concern.
What I raised was the fact that your ground will cut up over winter and will need to be managed carely, particularly with the amount of rain it will get.
Of course the surface is good at the moment. People aren't even walking on it.
3 night of training a week will test it, and my comment was simply that the ground surface will be OK next year, but dn't expect too much from it in July.
No critisism, just a commet. The persecution complex is wearing pretty thin.
But hey, as I said at the time, you guys have no idea.
Sandringham do it, Werribee do it, Port Melbourne do it...let's be fair here Dolph. $5 seems to be the norm, especially for the last two weeks of praccy games.
I'm sure when the real season starts they'll offer student concession prices unlike your club! You going to adopt the VFL's official pricing structure this year down at Frankston?
Sandringham do it, Werribee do it, Port Melbourne do it...let's be fair here Dolph. $5 seems to be the norm, especially for the last two weeks of praccy games.
I'm sure when the real season starts they'll offer student concession prices unlike your club! You going to adopt the VFL's official pricing structure this year down at Frankston?[/quote]
I agree that Sandy do it, wasn't sure of the others.
I personally don't like it.
But I doubt Sandy, for example, would be charging full fare to get in to a game that is not even fenced!
But I could be wrong. I was once before.
It seems to me that others are surprised that you even raise the $5 charge as an issue given it seems to be reasonably commonplace. Maybe you haven't been to enough other venues for practice matches to notice.
Thanks (genuinely) for acknowledging that a temporary venue is allowed to have a few shortcomings.
Other (singular) may have been surprised.
Been to enough to know.
I happen to disagree with a charge at a practice match, regardless of who it is.
My main point was actually charging at an incomplete venue. Thats the issue. One without toilets, it is alledged.
If it had been at the completed facility, I never would have raised it. Or, to be correct, commented on it after Ons raised it.