From the record: http://vfl.footballvic.com.au/_content/document/00048961-src.pdf
[i][b]VFLR: Do you believe stand-alone clubs need further assistance from the TRUenergy VFL?[/b]
PS: The VFL does help us out, but we have made application to increase our salary cap by $100,000 a year. We don’t believe it is unreasonable. Our record of being able to pay our players is second to none, and to recruit the type of players we have been talking about, we have to have that flexibility to get those players, otherwise they will get on a plane and go to South Australia. We need that scope.
[b]VFLR: If the TRUenergy VFL said yes to that request, could Port Melbourne afford that added cost without derailing its finances?[/b]
PS: It would impact on our bottom line, but we believe we can afford it. Our club is profitable each year. As a football club, we are here to win games. If we don’t win games it is not worth being in the competition. We are in a position to do it.[/i]
I posted something like this earlier, and Dolphin told me I had no idea what I was talking about. But perhaps I was just ahead of my time, eh Dolff?
I don't think that was actually the case, but I am happy for you you to point to the referance and refresh my memory.
http://vflfooty.dyndns.org/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1596
Then again, perhaps Peter Saultry doesn't quite know much about the competition either?
Then again, perhaps Peter Saultry doesn't quite know much about the competition either?[/quote]
Not sure that your taking some quote out of context claroifies your point.
In any event, what I did say was that the Salary Cap alone is not the issue facing clubs. And it is not the salaray cap alone that was the reason for Port not attracting the players they apparently wanted.
I recall that at the start of the season they were stating the view that they were very happy with what they had, and it was their best list in 20 years (or words to that effect).
Taking a quote out of context does not really help your argument, but then I don't really know what your argument is anyway.
Oh, and by the way, have you worked out the 5 differant structures yet?
The $100,000 would certainly bring it to a level where financially, the VFL standalone clubs can try and stop players from heading off to the SANFL.
However... as Dolphin has pointed out, there are often other factors that make the SANFL an attractive option.
Oh come on, Dolphin. I suggested exactly what Peter Saultry suggested, and that was a quote from your first reply.
[quote:fb7df1d670="Dolphin"]I recall that at the start of the season they were stating the view that they were very happy with what they had, and it was their best list in 20 years (or words to that effect).[/quote]
No club would ever publicly say that they are unhappy with the players they have just recruited, but Port have made it clear that there were several players that they were disappointed to miss out on signing.
[quote:fb7df1d670="onslaught"]The $100,000 would certainly bring it to a level where financially, the VFL standalone clubs can try and stop players from heading off to the SANFL.
[b]However... as Dolphin has pointed out, there are often other factors that make the SANFL an attractive option.[/b][/quote]
This is true, of course, but the important point is that those other factors affect recruitment for aligned clubs as well as standalone clubs, whereas this salary cap affects only the standalone clubs.
Don't get me wrong. I agree with the increase in the salary cap.
All I have been trying to say is that it is not the salary cap alone that creates the problem.
I don't dissagree with [b]everything [/b]you have said, but I simply suggest you look a little wider, and don't expect an increase in the salary cap ALONE to be the solution to some of the problems that Port have faced.
Port will be fine, just as I have said all along.
The competition has a lot of problems, things that make the SANFL and even the metropolitan leagues and the VAFA's old boys' clubs more attractive to some potential players.
However, most of those things affect the recruitment for both the aligned clubs and the standalone clubs. The salary cap does not, and that's my central point.
(What's more, most of those things can't actually be fixed.)
I don't doubt that Port will be [i]OK[/i], but I don't that they'll ever be able to put together a team capable of challenging for a premiership under the present system as a standalone club. I bet that was the Devils' reasoning too, when they abandoned so much of their Tasmanianness and linked with North.
I agree that was probalby their thinking.
But it seems to have gutted the Devlis "project".