Hi
Im working on a project where I intend to list the results of all the major competitions on a website. I have all the VFA stuff (1877-1995) missing a some VFL results - but I guess they can be found in newspapers.
Things Im struggling with is club data & history. Especially about defunct VFA & VFL clubs. Is there anyone who can answer questions about these clubs & supply scoring/games/goals records (i.e. Dandenong - my research has found they were formed in 1873)?
I have a lot of questions about the defunct clubs and the passing of the association. Is the Prahran club in the VAFA the real Prahran???
also is there anyone that has access to any player games goals records as I would like to add some VFA player profile (I intend to add all AFL hall of fame but as no VFA members are in they will need to be added)? I also need to add VFA records to HOF members I have games for most but missing some goals.
The website in its embryonic stages is;
http://www.firstclassfooty.web44.net/Index.html
Basically AFL Victoria doesnt know anything about the VFA or the legacy it took over. I really want to preserve this first before its all lost.
VFL club profiles are at the bottom
I hope someone gets in touch & can help in any or point me in certain directions.
I would also love copies of the old logos (I guess there is no copyright on them now).
regards
James Hothersall
Dandenong had a pretty big support base. Clubs like Dandenong, Prahran and Oakleigh all had good support in the good old days when VFA football was big and had a cult following on channel 0. Have you got the books off Santo as yet ? Plenty of reading material and history to go through.
Dandenong lost to Northcote in the 1961 2ND Division Grand Final. They won a year later and gradually built up to the infamous 1967 GF against Port. No doubt you will read all about an umpire called David Jackson. Four years later Dandenong's next flag was even more controversial.
Maybe Station Hotel can post these games here :
1967 VFA GF and 1971 VFA GF where you can watch all the controversy.
Keep up the good work Jamesh.
Hey jamesh....I think it's fantastic what you're doing. I assume you know of Fiddian's book the Pioneers? A fair bit of history on the old clubs. I've got a copy if you need any info out of it. As VFA said....keep up the great work!
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This is what I have on Dandenong if Anyone cares:
Dandenong
Formed: 1874. Dandenong merged with Dandenong Amateurs in 1951. At the end of 1994 the club was expelled from the VFA and integrated into the Southern Stingrays Under 18 team. Dandenong West adopted the Dandenong identity in 2004 after the club folded in 1994.
League History: 1951 Federal League 1951-1957; VFA 1958-1994
Colours: Blue with red yoke (previously white/blue & white with red/blue ‘V’)
Nickname: Red Legs (previously Rovers & Dandies)
Home Ground: Shepley Oval (1961-1994)
Previous Grounds: Showgrounds Oval (1958-1960)
VFA Premiers: 3 – 1967, 1971, 1991 (Runner-Up: 1969, 1972, 1975-6)
VFA Division Two Premiers: 1 – 1962 (Runner-up: 1961)
Federal League Premiers: 1 - 1953
Dandenong & Berwick Association Premiers: 3 - 1909, 1912, 1919
Caulfield Oakleigh Premiers: 2 - 1946, 1948
Most Games:
210 by Lew Wright Most Goals:
883 by Jim Miller
Most Goals in Match:
14 by Paul Garnett in 1991 Most Goals in a Season:
108 by Jim Miller in 1973
Highest Score:
47.17.299 v Mordialloc in 1987 Lowest Score:
1.5-11 v Box Hill in 1958
The old Showgrounds where Dandy played for the first three years were a sight to be seen as they had a sand bike track between the post and rail fence and the playing arena and a lot of trees close to the fence
For those that want to know where the ground was located, it was behind the current Dandenong Market and some of the original trees can be seen along the north west corner
The other quaint feature were the corrogated irom shed training/dressing room? that was a long way from the ground and were used during the Show as a pavilion for exhibits = a real country atmosphere.
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Ive got all the fiddian books still in print. Digs has helped me out with Ballarat footy, & the Prahran Amateurs found a copy of the old Fiddian book for me. I got a copy of the Dandenong history book via inter library loan and photocopied it.
Its come to my attention the VFA had a pre-season cup in the 90s and a lightning premiership in the 70s...... anyone know the winners?????
Im only going to stats profile the post war VFA clubs, as with the other leagues, as those that played only a few season before then arent worth me chasing as nobody is alive to remember them. I think Brunswick will be next.
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so the old ground is now gone?
Its interesting the Dandenong redleg logo was exactly the same as the Norwood redlegs
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This is what I have on Dandenong if Anyone cares:
Dandenong
If you were to go there now you wouldnt be able to tell there even was a large Showground/football oval there.
Formed: 1874. Dandenong merged with Dandenong Amateurs in 1951. At the end of 1994 the club was expelled from the VFA and integrated into the Southern Stingrays Under 18 team. Dandenong West adopted the Dandenong identity in 2004 after the club folded in 1994.
League History: 1951 Federal League 1951-1957; VFA 1958-1994
Colours: Blue with red yoke (previously white/blue & white with red/blue ‘V’)
Nickname: Red Legs (previously Rovers & Dandies)
Home Ground: Shepley Oval (1961-1994)
Previous Grounds: Showgrounds Oval (1958-1960)
VFA Premiers: 3 – 1967, 1971, 1991 (Runner-Up: 1969, 1972, 1975-6)
VFA Division Two Premiers: 1 – 1962 (Runner-up: 1961)
Federal League Premiers: 1 - 1953
Dandenong & Berwick Association Premiers: 3 - 1909, 1912, 1919
Caulfield Oakleigh Premiers: 2 - 1946, 1948
Most Games:
210 by Lew Wright Most Goals:
883 by Jim Miller
Most Goals in Match:
14 by Paul Garnett in 1991 Most Goals in a Season:
108 by Jim Miller in 1973
Highest Score:
47.17.299 v Mordialloc in 1987 Lowest Score:
1.5-11 v Box Hill in 1958
The old Showgrounds where Dandy played for the first three years were a sight to be seen as they had a sand bike track between the post and rail fence and the playing arena and a lot of trees close to the fence
For those that want to know where the ground was located, it was behind the current Dandenong Market and some of the original trees can be seen along the north west corner
The other quaint feature were the corrogated irom shed training/dressing room? that was a long way from the ground and were used during the Show as a pavilion for exhibits = a real country atmosphere.
so the old ground is now gone?
Its interesting the Dandenong redleg logo was exactly the same as the Norwood redlegs
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Lionel Farrow the longtime Dandenong Sec/manager was the one who came up with the "Dandy" logo maybe he pinched it from Norwood.
Like a lot of country towns Dandenong ( Dandenong was just a big country town before the 1950s boom) had two teams based on religious backgrounds of the players one Proddy the other Micks before they entered the Federal League and VFA.
Yes its totally gone .The first building that took up part of the ground was the new Dandenong City offices/ library in the 1970s and since then the Dandenong Market has gradually eaten away at what was left of the original Showgrounds.
Sadly Lionel has since passed away.
I noticed that one club competed in regional leagues as Dandenong United and the other as an amateur club (I presume the proddy team). Im unsure if Dandenong United is the club formed in 1874 though.
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Here are a few more for you.
Peter Bedford Port Melb/South Melb
Ron Clegg CC Brunswick/South Melb
Les Foote CC Preston/North Melb
Des Fothergill Williamstown/Collingwood
Keith Grieg Brunswick/North Melb
Alan Hopkins Footscray VFA/VFL
Bill Morris CC Box Hill/Richmond
Colin Watson Port Melb /St Kilda
Roy Cazaly CC Preston/South Melb
Herbie Mathews CC Oakleigh/South Melb
Johnny Lewis North Melb VFA/VFL
Jack Moriarty Essendon Assoc /Fitzroy.
Looks like AustralianFootball (successor to FullPointsFooty) have uploaded the complete 1897 and 1898 VFA seasons.
http://australianfootball.com/seasons/season/VFA/1898/
I have contacted them and it seems they have every score from every VFA match from 1877-1995 and it will be uploaded over the coming weeks. So something to look forward to.