They carnt keep going on like this year after year.
Smashed every week
Its hard not to disagree with you ozybeer. The way Frankston Football Club has been managed they might be better off back in the MPNFL. This club is a shambles. Ive been a paid member since 1987 when Caulfield was "emptied out" of the VFA as one football scribe of the era so eloquently reported the demise of the club, and then changed my allegience to the Dolphins. My memory is not what it once was but I believe last years player walkout was the third time this has happened in the last 10-12 years or so. It happened around the time Shannon Grant left as coach, among rumours of players not being paid. Also 6 years ago when The Goose took over, and again last year. Im not privy to what happens inside the walls of Kars street but one would assume the most probable reason for a player walkout would be financial. I know there have been a few major hurdles for Frankston to overcome, eg; the grandstand burning down and having to be replaced, and the building of the new facilities at the ground. It seems the club has made player payments a low priority. If they arent going to play the players their entitlements why even bother having the club?
I said earlier the club is a shambles. Id like to point out a few things from this year that Ive noticed that make me think this. This stuff is small potatoes but just shows how poorly this place is being run.
I purchased my membership for 2015 in December of 2014. After posting it to the club I didnt hear one thing back from them. No email to acknowlege payment recieved etc or expected date membership cards would be mailed out. I still had not received my membership card 3 days before the first match, so I had to go to the club and ask what had happened. The lady I saw made a phone call, then reappeared after 10 minutes or so with my membership pack. No explanation, no apology etc...We are up to round 10 and I still havent had any communication from the club. No emails, no letters, nothing explaining whats happening around the club.
The clubs website is an emabarrasment to them. www.frankstonfc.com.au The home page has some information on it but has not been updated since round 6. As far as I can see its the only page that works. Even the membership page has a error 404 message. So you cant even buy a club membeship via their website. Unbelievable. If you look at the Port Melbourne website its a plethora of information for supporters, player profiles, video interviews with the coach, news of things happenening, even live streaming of their games! Their facebook page is no better. No information at all except for Robbo kindly posting the progressive scores from each match. Most weeks there is a brief preview/review of each match, but thats about it. Not to have these basic things working is a disgrace.
As I said earlier this stuff is small potatoes but it does show how poor the club is at attracting new members and looking after the faithful that they have. Looks like their two lowest priorities are members/supporters and paying their players.
The new function centre at the ground is well on its way to completion. This is the clubs plan for the future. Lets hope it is successful and can raise the money needed to compete successfully in the VFL. If not, their future is very very bleak.
I dont think their pokies would be a big source of income. I think they only have about 15-20 machines. The room only has the machines and a bar, no meal facility in the room. Really its something out of the 80's.Doesnt seem to be promoted at all.
Id assume it would be moved and improved to the new facilities but I dont know as the club doesnt really share any info with its members.
I don't think the AFL would want to move Frankston on unless they present a financial risk, it is a club where young players get to take the next step on the talent pathway and which produces AFL talent. I very much doubt the AFL care how many wins a club has in the VFL, they'd prefer a stand alone team which plays mostly young kids than one which pays experienced players and is successful each year.
Frankston's record since the start of 2009 is 18 wins, 95 losses and 3 draws for a winning percentage of 16.8%. It has claimed 3 wooden spoons with a 4th almost certain this year. In actual fact, it's record isn't a whole lot different from Box Hill's during our horror period from 1973 to 1981 when we were regarded as an embarrassment to the VFA.
Frankston I think suffers from being the only Club in the VFL that hasn't had at least at one stage an AFL partnership. The AFL influence has lifted the professionalism of the competition enormously, even amongst the likes of Port Melbourne and Williamstown who have since chosen to stand alone. Frankston is still run - by well meaning and hard working people, so no disrespect intended - the same way as it was 25 years ago. The competition has moved past that. The stories above don't surprise me. It would be unthinkable at other Clubs that in this day and age players wouldn't be paid but at least 3 times in the past decade stories about players at Frankston not getting paid have done the rounds.
paul is right. The AFL only sees the VFL competition as serving one purpose - developing AFL talent. I'm sure it would like to move the VFL to an under 23 format. This might be the one thing that ultimately saves Frankston, it has a good record of developing players for the AFL, much better than any of the other stand alone Clubs. Otherwise it's almost impossible to see how the Dolphins could once again become a competitive force in the VFL.
How long before vfl ask frankston to move on?
They carnt keep going on like this year after year.
Smashed every week
Essendon 24-6(150) defeated Frankston 8-8(56)
Essendon 24-6(150) defeated Frankston 8-8(56)
In reply to How long before vfl ask by ozybeer
Dunno.
They've been competitive in previous seasons. But this season is a worry.
In reply to How long before vfl ask by ozybeer
Its hard not to disagree with you ozybeer. The way Frankston Football Club has been managed they might be better off back in the MPNFL. This club is a shambles. Ive been a paid member since 1987 when Caulfield was "emptied out" of the VFA as one football scribe of the era so eloquently reported the demise of the club, and then changed my allegience to the Dolphins. My memory is not what it once was but I believe last years player walkout was the third time this has happened in the last 10-12 years or so. It happened around the time Shannon Grant left as coach, among rumours of players not being paid. Also 6 years ago when The Goose took over, and again last year. Im not privy to what happens inside the walls of Kars street but one would assume the most probable reason for a player walkout would be financial. I know there have been a few major hurdles for Frankston to overcome, eg; the grandstand burning down and having to be replaced, and the building of the new facilities at the ground. It seems the club has made player payments a low priority. If they arent going to play the players their entitlements why even bother having the club?
I said earlier the club is a shambles. Id like to point out a few things from this year that Ive noticed that make me think this. This stuff is small potatoes but just shows how poorly this place is being run.
I purchased my membership for 2015 in December of 2014. After posting it to the club I didnt hear one thing back from them. No email to acknowlege payment recieved etc or expected date membership cards would be mailed out. I still had not received my membership card 3 days before the first match, so I had to go to the club and ask what had happened. The lady I saw made a phone call, then reappeared after 10 minutes or so with my membership pack. No explanation, no apology etc...We are up to round 10 and I still havent had any communication from the club. No emails, no letters, nothing explaining whats happening around the club.
The clubs website is an emabarrasment to them. www.frankstonfc.com.au The home page has some information on it but has not been updated since round 6. As far as I can see its the only page that works. Even the membership page has a error 404 message. So you cant even buy a club membeship via their website. Unbelievable. If you look at the Port Melbourne website its a plethora of information for supporters, player profiles, video interviews with the coach, news of things happenening, even live streaming of their games! Their facebook page is no better. No information at all except for Robbo kindly posting the progressive scores from each match. Most weeks there is a brief preview/review of each match, but thats about it. Not to have these basic things working is a disgrace.
As I said earlier this stuff is small potatoes but it does show how poor the club is at attracting new members and looking after the faithful that they have. Looks like their two lowest priorities are members/supporters and paying their players.
The new function centre at the ground is well on its way to completion. This is the clubs plan for the future. Lets hope it is successful and can raise the money needed to compete successfully in the VFL. If not, their future is very very bleak.
Why are they broke? They seem to have pokies, enough support, etc?
I dont think their pokies would be a big source of income. I think they only have about 15-20 machines. The room only has the machines and a bar, no meal facility in the room. Really its something out of the 80's.Doesnt seem to be promoted at all.
Id assume it would be moved and improved to the new facilities but I dont know as the club doesnt really share any info with its members.
Sad to see anyway. Hope things can pick up for them.
I don't think the AFL would want to move Frankston on unless they present a financial risk, it is a club where young players get to take the next step on the talent pathway and which produces AFL talent. I very much doubt the AFL care how many wins a club has in the VFL, they'd prefer a stand alone team which plays mostly young kids than one which pays experienced players and is successful each year.
Frankston's record since the start of 2009 is 18 wins, 95 losses and 3 draws for a winning percentage of 16.8%. It has claimed 3 wooden spoons with a 4th almost certain this year. In actual fact, it's record isn't a whole lot different from Box Hill's during our horror period from 1973 to 1981 when we were regarded as an embarrassment to the VFA.
Frankston I think suffers from being the only Club in the VFL that hasn't had at least at one stage an AFL partnership. The AFL influence has lifted the professionalism of the competition enormously, even amongst the likes of Port Melbourne and Williamstown who have since chosen to stand alone. Frankston is still run - by well meaning and hard working people, so no disrespect intended - the same way as it was 25 years ago. The competition has moved past that. The stories above don't surprise me. It would be unthinkable at other Clubs that in this day and age players wouldn't be paid but at least 3 times in the past decade stories about players at Frankston not getting paid have done the rounds.
paul is right. The AFL only sees the VFL competition as serving one purpose - developing AFL talent. I'm sure it would like to move the VFL to an under 23 format. This might be the one thing that ultimately saves Frankston, it has a good record of developing players for the AFL, much better than any of the other stand alone Clubs. Otherwise it's almost impossible to see how the Dolphins could once again become a competitive force in the VFL.