VFL R10 - Frankston vs Port Melbourne

The VFL are doing a full Video live stream of this match. Casey Radio are also covering the game live on 97.7 FM. Click the below link. A massive game for both teams. The Borough want a good win after a shakey couple of weeks, and the Dolphins will be desperate to notch up a win and always seem to find something in these standalone clashes against the Borough.
billythekid Tue, 23 Jun 2015 - 18:45

In reply to by Bearsman

[quote=Bearsman]

Good game to watch but hardly a classic in terms of skill. I agree with Paul, Port a long way off the best teams at the moment but can improve. Frankston good effort, fought hard all day and played a solid four quarters except for the first half of the second quarter where they appeard to be asleep.

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Frankston drove another wedge between itself and its supporters yesterday with the coach not allowing supporters into the rooms at half time. This is permanent I was told by an official.

I in all the years of following Sandy have NEVER seen supporters in the rooms a 1/2 time usually only the Pres and GM might be let in even they were sometimes kept out no wonder the Zebras ahve won the most t
flags over the last 20 years and Frankston 0

It smacks of an unprofessionalisim and a hicksville approach.

If Frankston wants to a part of the supposed second best comp outside the AFL then it cannot act as a country club so I 100% agree with their approach.Supporters are there to watch the game not join the coaching staff as they do their job.

Bearsman Tue, 23 Jun 2015 - 18:44

Another kick in the guts for Frankston. Key position players Waylon Manson and Ryan Kitchin have quit the club. Report in the Frankston Standard says that Manson has a knee problem and Kitchin has gone back to his local league club.The club has placed an ad on their Facebook page hoping to recruit players before the June 30 cut off.

zebraman Tue, 23 Jun 2015 - 20:06

In reply to by billythekid

[quote=billythekid]

Bearsman wrote:Good game to watch but hardly a classic in terms of skill. I agree with Paul, Port a long way off the best teams at the moment but can improve. Frankston good effort, fought hard all day and played a solid four quarters except for the first half of the second quarter where they appeard to be asleep.

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Frankston drove another wedge between itself and its supporters yesterday with the coach not allowing supporters into the rooms at half time. This is permanent I was told by an official.

I in all the years of following Sandy have NEVER seen supporters in the rooms a 1/2 time usually only the Pres and GM might be let in even they were sometimes kept out no wonder the Zebras ahve won the most t

flags over the last 20 years and Frankston 0

It smacks of an unprofessionalisim and a hicksville approach.

If Frankston wants to a part of the supposed second best comp outside the AFL then it cannot act as a country club so I 100% agree with their approach.Supporters are there to watch the game not join the coaching staff as they do their job.

Correct Billy..1/2 time is off limits to supporters. As it should be. At Sandy you would have to get past Can Hill Clarry to get into the rooms at 1/2 time..not an easy task I can assure you!

I did notice at North Ballarat a couple of weeks ago, that they let supporters into the rooms prior to the game which is not a bad idea.

Of course after the game is always open. Although you virtually get no-one in after a loss. We had a reserves coach at Sandy who asked for people not to be allowed in after the game until the coach had spoken to the players. There was no way known I was going tell people to leave especially after a win.I doubt any club would ban supporters from going into the rooms straight after a game particularly after a win. A strange request for sure

paul Wed, 24 Jun 2015 - 09:29

There are actually two discussions here, whether allowing supporters in the changerooms at half-time is a good idea, and whether now is the right time for Frankston to stop allowing it.

Re whether it should be done, some people call it unprofessional, if an AFL club did it it'd be called innovative. In fact, I'm pretty sure some AFL clubs offer selected supporters restricted access to the rooms.

Personally I think it's about balance, have a small area where supporters can get in, but obviously not have access to the meeting room where tactical decisions are made and communicated. From my experience there were plenty more positives than negatives from having the supporters around pumping the players up.

On the latter, this is a long-running tradition at Frankston, and given to date this year's on-field product is one of the least attractive the club has ever offered, I'm not sure it's the right time to be stripping loyal supporters of privileges like getting close to the huddle or getting into the rooms at half-time. Those supporters have stuck through dark days, briefly seen some light and now been plunged back into dark days.

The reality is the new coach wants to try it, which is his right, but hopefully when the committee reviews it they will see it does more harm than good and find a better way to balance privacy with engaging the most important people at the club, the fans.

billythekid Wed, 24 Jun 2015 - 12:28

In reply to by paul

As I said Paul it is totally unprofessional and if Frankston want to stay that way it will be many more years before they even look like wining a Flag
Half Time i the change rooms is for the most important people in the club - the players and coaches to have some privacy.

I dont think missing 15 minutes of game day time is that hard to take

paul Wed, 24 Jun 2015 - 13:39

Once upon a time having cameras in the changerooms, having cameras and journos in the coaches box, having supporters in the changerooms, and having players and coaches give interviews before orduring the game were seen as unprofessional and absolute no nos. Even coaches giving interviews during the week was once seen as detracting from their professional commitment to the job.

Of course, AFL clubs have done all of the above and more, and the only time they're unprofessional is if they're not professionally managed.

I understand why the new coach might want to make the change, I also understand how poorly received it has been by supporters who've stuck by the club through a long hard period. There's no reason there can't be restricted access which doesn't affect players and coaches, it's been achieved before.

Hopefully the committee will strike that balance when they review the situation.

bullants Wed, 24 Jun 2015 - 14:01

Sometimes the door was shut when Goosey coached but no one was ever asked to leave and generally it was only family members and club volunteers-workers in rooms at halftime. After the game was different especially after a win supporters would come in.

Of course if people are noisy or disruptive they should be shown the door but given the numbers at most games giving supporters access to the rooms helps the sell the club, line coaches have enough space to take players away from people to have a chat.

digs Wed, 24 Jun 2015 - 15:16

In reply to by Bearsman

Bearsman wrote:

vfa wrote:

Any of the first year players from Frankston that stood out ?

The standout has been Daniel Capiron.Has played as 23rd man a few times and is a good chance to be drafted this year. Unlucky to miss out last year after being a bit inconsistent.



Another would be Kyle Gray.Emerging defender who should go on. Ive been really impressed with big Kalem Post. Workhorse ruckman who chases, tackles and kicks the odd goal. Has a great leap at centre bounces and often jumps over the top of taller opponents. Needs some work on his marking but a real asset this year.

Don't tell them too much Bearsman !!
The vultures will be making some phone calls.

digs Wed, 24 Jun 2015 - 15:17

In reply to by Toecutter

Toecutter wrote:

The blokes on the hill, while witty at times, are a dead-set embarrassment to the club and the town in my opinion. The sledging usually starts off playfully enough, but as the alcohol takes effect during the day, it gets far too personal, is often racist and the language is awful. I take my 15yo son to games, and I completely understand why not many others take their kids. I'd love to see it be more of a family-friendly atmosphere, but these clowns kill that chance off, and undoubtedly cost the club quite a few family memberships.

Cutter, Have talk to Blackrocker !!