Frankston Park Grandstand destroyed by Fire

The historic "Bryan Mace Grandstand" at Frankston Park has been destroyed by the fire this morning. Reports say a passing motorist noticed the fire in the grandstand around 2:30am today and called the firefighters and when they arrived the grandstand was well ablaze. It is believed to have caused $1million damage. Arson is suspected. Very sad news?
Dolphin Thu, 21 Feb 2008 - 21:54
caseyscorp wrote:[quote:bdd0bfb2a0="NorthPort"]Hopefully something comparable or larger can be built in its place.
You can be certain that something larger will be built in its place![/quote] Ithink its time for you to give up on the sniping and gloating and move on. I've held my tongue for a week but you are really starting to piss me off. StKilda didnt want to go to your cow paddock, so get over it.
caseyscorp Thu, 21 Feb 2008 - 23:28
Dolphin wrote:Ithink its time for you to give up on the sniping and gloating and move on. I've held my tongue for a week but you are really starting to piss me off. StKilda didnt want to go to your cow paddock, so get over it.
Here’s my comments over about the last week. It is hardly sniping or gloating, and I’m not sure what you’ve held your tongue over. [quote:7d568b2498="caseyscorp"][quote:7d568b2498="footyman"]And hopefully it doesn't lead to St Kilda's facilities being constructed in its place.[/quote] That would be a likely outcome you would think - it would remove a number of impediments faced by St Kilda FC and Frankston Council which plague the arrangement they are currently trying to implement.[/quote] [quote:7d568b2498="caseyscorp"][quote:7d568b2498="NorthPort"]Hopefully something comparable or larger can be built in its place. [/quote] You can be certain that something larger will be built in its place![/quote] I’ve well & truly accepted the fact that St Kilda chose to go to Frankston. But you need to accept the fact that the fire is what ensured that the St Kilda development will actually occur. I would have thought you’d be happy about it (not the fire itself, of course, but the fact that it has created the opportunity for a more integrated development). You sound a bit bitter though, but it creates your greatest opportunity.
Dolphin Fri, 22 Feb 2008 - 09:14
caseyscorp wrote:I’ve well & truly accepted the fact that St Kilda chose to go to Frankston. But you need to accept the fact that the fire is what ensured that the St Kilda development will actually occur. I would have thought you’d be happy about it (not the fire itself, of course, but the fact that it has created the opportunity for a more integrated development). You sound a bit bitter though, but it creates your greatest opportunity.
You actually missed one, but regardless of that this certainly has a differant spin to the previous post, and is much more welcome.
zebra Fri, 22 Feb 2008 - 11:23
:D Would that also mean a new outer fence so St. Kilda can train their players out of sight as they have done at Moorabbin? go zebs zebra :wink:
paul Fri, 22 Feb 2008 - 13:33
I can see that an alignment between St Kilda and Frankston in a few years is a real possibility, especially given that as a stand alone club the Dolphins are far from swimming in cash. What I cant understand is the sentiment, on this forum and elsewhere, that an alignment is inevitable because St Kilda staying aligned with Casey would be 'unworkable' once they move to Frankston Park. I have not read or heard one coherant reason why this is the case. All that is presented is 'it just wouldnt work', or 'being cotenants Frankston and St Kilda would have to align', or 'it would be awkward'. There is no reason why the current arrangement could not continue. It wouldnt be the first time that clubs with contrasting interests share the same ground. And Frankston certainly wont give away what they have worked so hard to keep just because things get 'awkward'. Whether the Dolphins-Saints alignment happens will come down to finances. If the provisions in the relocation deal - insisited upon by the Councillors - that are designed to help the Dolphins are delivered, the club will be stronger than it has been for a long time. If they are not delivered, the Dolphins will struggle to survive and will most likely align - but it is certainly not inevitable, Frankston has shown it is willing to fight very hard to remain independent.
caseyscorp Fri, 22 Feb 2008 - 22:21
Dolphin wrote:You actually missed one, but regardless of that this certainly has a differant spin to the previous post, and is much more welcome.
You’re right – I did miss one. [quote:798b56e672="caseyscorp"][quote:798b56e672="241"]For you guys that think this is a so called "jewish stock take" you must be dreaming, this stand was one of the Dolpins greatest assets.[/quote] Actually one of the Council's assets - this being the Council which has agreed to host the Saints at Frankston Park, with the project beset by siting constraints.[/quote] Same sentiment as the others though. My view is simple and consistent: • Casey Fields would have been a better location for an AFL team from the point of view of the ground size and its capacity to accommodate the physical infrastructure required. • The development would ultimately not have occurred at Frankston because of a whole range of problems (space availability, parking, view lines, political, legal) – it was just a nightmare, and surely you were aware of all of these problems. • The fire changed everything, because all of a sudden the St Kilda development would be able to avoid most of the blockages, and the admin facility would be able to be accommodated on the park site as well. • The fire was a blessing in disguise for Frankston FC because most of the issues went away, and all of a sudden it could be included in a larger integrated complex. Not sure that I can see any different “spin” at all, but if you can that’s fine by me.
footyman Fri, 22 Feb 2008 - 23:44
caseyscorp wrote:• The fire changed everything, because all of a sudden the St Kilda development would be able to avoid most of the blockages, and the admin facility would be able to be accommodated on the park site as well. • The fire was a blessing in disguise for Frankston FC because most of the issues went away, and all of a sudden it could be included in a larger integrated complex.
The above reasons are exactly why the cynics are talking about it being a 'convenient' fire. When a structure stands for 70 years but burns to the ground as a redevelopment nears, people can't help but wonder. It's happened plenty of times before. Frankston can now widen their ground if they desire, they can establish a facility on the wing that better suits the Saints and one that will secure Frankston's future and the grounds future long term.