2013 VFL Grand Final - Geelong v Box Hill Hawks

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I was hoping Werribee would make it through for the good of the competition, as they still appear to be a club in their own right, whereas Box Hill really aren't their own club anymore with the jumper change, song change and name change etc.

Still it might bring a bigger crowd along or it could work against the VFL, with general supporters less likely to attend a 'reserves' Grand Final.

From what I saw of todays game, it's difficult to see the Hawks really challenging Geelong. I wonder what impact Friday nights game between the two clubs will have on selection.

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billythekid Sun, 29 Sep 2013 - 08:29

vfa wrote:

One of the most pox afl grand finals I have seen. I have gone to every vfl/afl GF as well as vfa/vfl grand final since Kevin Bartlett had hair as well as well as the days of Max Papley. The third quarter was reasonable but to have a GF with a half time score line of 5 goals to one with trash footy ??

Why didn't Hawthorn wear Box Hill mustangs jumpers today ?

On a serious note great to see Isaac Smith playing in a afl premiership team.

From Redan to North Ballarat seconds and a flag for the roosters seniors in no time.

I was hoping the other vfl player in Michael Barlow would do well and win a Norm Smith.

Speaking of Norm Smith medalist, remember when Brian Lake who was known as Brian Harris back then playing his first vfl game for Werribee and lining up on Plugger Lockett at Port Melbourne. The borough was trailing by heaps at half time but stormed home to win.

vfa I think you had better get used to the fact that the stronger AFL seconds teams could and will make the GF from here on in fact they could even dominate the finals system.

The only way this lopsided comp can gain credibilty is to split in two and have a play off GF betwwen the two groups.

digs Sun, 29 Sep 2013 - 09:42

Borough1874 wrote:

If it wasn't for north Ballarat having a 2's side I can fairly confidently say Isaac smith would not have won a flag today.

Borough ...I can confidently say that that is bullshit.

zebraman Sun, 29 Sep 2013 - 11:35

digs wrote:

billythekid wrote:

Billy, I'm not in love with the yanks either, but to say you didn't shed a tear when 2000 people lost their lives is way over the top.

Agree Digs... Billy, you're entitled to your opinion, but what you said was very very ordinary....still can't believe I read that comment...poor form

BrekkyDJ Sun, 29 Sep 2013 - 11:56

digs wrote:

Borough1874 wrote:

If it wasn't for north Ballarat having a 2's side I can fairly confidently say Isaac smith would not have won a flag today.

Borough ...I can confidently say that that is bullshit.

Actually, I think it's a very good point.

I wonder if Sammy Dwyer would have ever made AFL if we didn't have a 2nds.

Borough1874 Sun, 29 Sep 2013 - 12:06

How mate? Isaac made his debut in north Ballarat 2's.

If the lists were not as flexible with the addition of the extra 30odd players allowed to field a 2's side.

It would have made it hard for the young boy to get into the 1's in his first year with no background at local club.

billythekid Sun, 29 Sep 2013 - 12:28

zebraman wrote:

digs wrote:

billythekid wrote:

Billy, I'm not in love with the yanks either, but to say you didn't shed a tear when 2000 people lost their lives is way over the top.

Agree Digs... Billy, you're entitled to your opinion, but what you said was very very ordinary....still can't believe I read that comment...poor form

Think what you like but having lived and visited countries ruined by the yanks like Angola,Iraq,most South American countries etc for their own gain so I dont back away from any comment Ive made

Btw I dindt say I support terrorism in any form just that you sow what you reap and the USA is no different to many other countries that get a hammering because of their actions.
Israel is one that comes to mind Pakistan is another both allies of the US!

vfa Sun, 29 Sep 2013 - 12:43

billythekid wrote:

vfa wrote:

One of the most pox afl grand finals I have seen. I have gone to every vfl/afl GF as well as vfa/vfl grand final since Kevin Bartlett had hair as well as well as the days of Max Papley. The third quarter was reasonable but to have a GF with a half time score line of 5 goals to one with trash footy ??

Why didn't Hawthorn wear Box Hill mustangs jumpers today ?

On a serious note great to see Isaac Smith playing in a afl premiership team.

From Redan to North Ballarat seconds and a flag for the roosters seniors in no time.

I was hoping the other vfl player in Michael Barlow would do well and win a Norm Smith.

Speaking of Norm Smith medalist, remember when Brian Lake who was known as Brian Harris back then playing his first vfl game for Werribee and lining up on Plugger Lockett at Port Melbourne. The borough was trailing by heaps at half time but stormed home to win.

vfa I think you had better get used to the fact that the stronger AFL seconds teams could and will make the GF from here on in fact they could even dominate the finals system.

The only way this lopsided comp can gain credibilty is to split in two and have a play off GF betwwen the two groups.

Billy I was talking about yesterdays AFL GF as well as ex VFL Isaac Smith, Michael Barlow as well as Brian Lake/Harris playing his first game.
You might be right with a lopsided comp. Then again I would not count Port Melbourne and Williamstown as well as the improving Frankston as bottom and struggling teams.
The AFL standalone teams need injury free and the right mix of players. Also helps if there AFL team is still in afl finals. I would not say that the afl standalone teams will dominate. Williamstown will be in at least the top six teams next year. Port depends on who they lose and who they gain for next year. Frankston will improve further and can make finals next year.