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NorthPort
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1954 - Williamstown v Port Melbourne
Great viewing.
vfa
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The good old days Junction Oval. Look at the crowd and colour. The Junction should be the home for VFL finals. Worst thing they ever did is to demolish the walls, bulldoze the old cricket club stand, shrink the scoreboard and my favorite end behind the goals with the wooden stand and seats. Easy to rebuild and errect another wall around the premieter of the ground and bring the life back to this once famous footy ground and end this TURD DOME nonsense which has been a dismal flop. My estimation is 15,000 for Sunday but of course I would love to see 20,000 at TURD DOME. Still a crowd of 20,000 has not the same atmsphere of 25,000 at the Junction oval and never ever will. Thank god you have a Port Melbourne v Williamstown Grand Final and the way things have panned out they should get the biggest crowd of the 4 Grand Finals they have had at Turd Dome by far. It is Wednesday morning and WTF has the VFL knobs done to promote it ? In the words of the old VFA promo (sweet VFA). Hook and co have done Sweet VFA (Virtually F### All).
I'll be sending an email out to heaps of mates and footy diehards to get them along on Sunday. Hope to get a big crew to the Great Western pre game.

billythekid
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Great work North Port and vfa.I was at that game ( 11 years old at the time) in front of the "Blackie Ironmonger" stand not that I can remember much about the game but I think there was a pretty wild fight after the match between the Port and Willy supporters.

I know I got hit on the head during this meele by an old female Port supporter who thought I was supporting Willy - which I was LOL!
Thats the first reason among many that were to follow that made me dislike Port for so long but I would still like to see them win on Sunday.

The VFA GF usually got a big crowd because it was played a week after the VFL GF so it was the last major game before cricket took over.

The atmosphere was always some what muted as there were a lot of what are now classed as theatre goers who were not supporters of either team.The other semi finals used to get 8- 12,000 depending on who was playing.

Ive given up on the pathetic mob at the VFL no doubt they are more interested in some minor country league in woop woop than supporting their supposded flagship State competition!

digs
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[quote=billythekid]Great work North Port and vfa.I was at that game ( 11 years old at the time) in front of the "Blackie Ironmonger" stand not that I can remember much about the game but I think there was a pretty wild fight after the match between the Port and Willy supporters.

I know I got hit on the head during this meele by an old female Port supporter who thought I was supporting Willy - which I was LOL!
Thats the first reason among many that were to follow that made me dislike Port for so long but I would still like to see them win on Sunday.

The VFA GF usually got a big crowd because it was played a week after the VFL GF so it was the last major game before cricket took over.

The atmosphere was always some what muted as there were a lot of what are now classed as theatre goers who were not supporters of either team.The other semi finals used to get 8- 12,000 depending on who was playing.

Ive given up on the pathetic mob at the VFL no doubt they are more interested in some minor country league in woop woop than supporting their supposded flagship State competition![/quote]

The VFL heirachy certainly do need to do better. You would think that with Demetriou running the show he would be pushing very hard to make this competition the best there is.
A lot of great players have come from WOOP WOOP Billy.

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blackrocker
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Golly , I am as old as BTK !
I was at that ’54 GF; I vaguely remember the fight amongst rival supporters.

Notice at ¾ break the players all sat down on a tarpaulin. The top VFA umpire (umpired the '54 GF) of those times was Jack Irvine, (called “Roughnut” because he had a short crew cut). Umpires in those days used gabardine overcoats instead of tracksuits to keep them warm . Anyone wearing a garadine coat today would be suspected of being a "flasher"
One of my memories was the half time exodus to the hotel that was on a triangle of land at the St Kilda Junction, and how the supporter groups became move vocal and abusive to each other after half time refreshments.

vfa
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The George Hotel ?
We use to drop in there before some of the Grand Finals in the early to mid 80s.
A lot of hardcore VFA supporters use to bring a few bottles (in the days when you could) into the ground. Some even downed a few at hlaf time with a few extra travellers into the ground at half timebreak.

The most pathetic (dry) GF would have been 2000 when they only served light beer crap and there was no pub near byu at VFL Park.
When the served only light beer from 1994 to early 2000s you would see plenty of empty coke cans with the smell of bourbon and whisky. Funny stuff.

There is certainly a culture in VFA Grand Finals where you would meet up for a drink before and after the game for an amber fluid. From 1970 onwards here are some of the pubs we have had a pere game ale and a few nmore ales afterwards.

Junction Oval 1970 to 1987 George Hotel
Toorak Park 1970 to 1984 Orrong Hotel
Windy Hill 1988/89 Royal Hotel
Princes Park 1990/91/92/93/96/01/02/03/04/05/06/07 Naughton's Hotel, Bridies O'Riley's (ex Sarah Sands)
Victoria Park 1994/5 Yarra Hotel, Retreat Hotel (the pub used for the Sullivans series)
Waverley Park 2000 (nearest pub Wheelers Hill Hotel) Had an ale at Mulgrave RSL beforehand
Teac Oval/North Port 1997/98/99 Albion Hotel, Railway Club
Tesltra Dome (TURD DOME)/Ethihad Stadium 2008/09/10/11 Great Western Hotel

theobserver
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I could watch old footage like that all day and all night. Amazing stufff. We're lucky it's still around.

vfa
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Observer, it's certainly is priceless.
There is still some old footage around whether it is an old reel, home video, super 8 format, beta, umatic and vhs. With technology these days it can be converted to dvd no problems. Loved the crowd and back drop at the grand old ground JUNCTION OVAL.

billythekid
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[quote=blackrocker]Golly , I am as old as BTK !
I was at that ’54 GF; I vaguely remember the fight amongst rival supporters.

Notice at ¾ break the players all sat down on a tarpaulin. The top VFA umpire (umpired the '54 GF) of those times was Jack Irvine, (called “Roughnut” because he had a short crew cut). Umpires in those days used gabardine overcoats instead of tracksuits to keep them warm . Anyone wearing a garadine coat today would be suspected of being a "flasher"
One of my memories was the half time exodus to the hotel that was on a triangle of land at the St Kilda Junction, and how the supporter groups became move vocal and abusive to each other after half time refreshments.[/quote]

Of course umpire Jack Irving went on to be the top VFL umpire for many years and did many VFL GFs as well. Great to see Gerry Callahan and Wally Carter the coach in the video.

Carter was one of the very few non playing coaches in that era and the first I saw using a blackboard to explain tactics and moves to his players.

digs
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[quote=vfa]The George Hotel ?
We use to drop in there before some of the Grand Finals in the early to mid 80s.
A lot of hardcore VFA supporters use to bring a few bottles (in the days when you could) into the ground. Some even downed a few at hlaf time with a few extra travellers into the ground at half timebreak.

The most pathetic (dry) GF would have been 2000 when they only served light beer crap and there was no pub near byu at VFL Park.
When the served only light beer from 1994 to early 2000s you would see plenty of empty coke cans with the smell of bourbon and whisky. Funny stuff.

There is certainly a culture in VFA Grand Finals where you would meet up for a drink before and after the game for an amber fluid. From 1970 onwards here are some of the pubs we have had a pere game ale and a few nmore ales afterwards.

Junction Oval 1970 to 1987 George Hotel
Toorak Park 1970 to 1984 Orrong Hotel
Windy Hill 1988/89 Royal Hotel
Princes Park 1990/91/92/93/96/01/02/03/04/05/06/07 Naughton's Hotel, Bridies O'Riley's (ex Sarah Sands)
Victoria Park 1994/5 Yarra Hotel, Retreat Hotel (the pub used for the Sullivans series)
Waverley Park 2000 (nearest pub Wheelers Hill Hotel) Had an ale at Mulgrave RSL beforehand
Teac Oval/North Port 1997/98/99 Albion Hotel, Railway Club
Tesltra Dome (TURD DOME)/Ethihad Stadium 2008/09/10/11 Great Western Hotel[/quote]

The GEORGE hotel, obviously named after you Georgie.
We have one up here too.
Is there a pub in Melbourne that you haven't been in ???

We might be from the bush. but we ain't green

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blackrocker
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The hotel I mentioned in an earlier post was the Junction Hotel, see link

http://www.walkingmelbourne.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4391

See this link for the George Hotel which is opposit the old St Kilda Railway Station
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:George_hotel_st_kilda.jpg

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