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VFL Round 2 Port Melbourne vs Frankston
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PORT MELBOURNE
B: B. Smith (22), T. Highmore (35), G. Barnes (25)
HB: T. Watson (11), F. Rosman (3), O. Mulady (5)
C: T. Hird (4), A. Anastasio (19), M. Moschetti (6)
HF: M. Gahan (32), J. Miller (23), L. Rankin (15)
F: B. Gowers (10), A. Manton (16), M. Signorello (17)
R: F. Flockart (27), R. Smith (18), H. Hooper (37)
INT: C. Walker (29), L. Coghlan (30), A. Curry (13), K. Viccars (2), T. Hofert (21)
EMG: N. Stuhldreier (31), S. Johnson (8), H. Stubbings (12), L. Modica (56), S. Allen (47), S. Green (36)

IN: A. Curry, T. Hofert
OUT: J. Green (ankle), R.McComb (foot)

FRANKSTON
B:
 K. Stainthorpe (29), M. Williams (4), T. Barlow (3)
HB: T. Murphy (5), J. Smith (25), G. Grey (6)
C: C. Nayna (9), J. Newnes (14), J. Voss (13)
HF: T. Mynott (12), T. Marotta (30), L. Reidy (2)
F: N. Burke (17), N. Gown (1), M. Johnson (24)
R: A. Grant (19), T. Owens (7), S. Quirk (11)
INT: T. Milne (15), O. Moran (28), B. O'Leary (10), L. Riley (21), J. Butland (8)
EMG: J. McManus (43), J. Davies (35), H. Jones (39), T. Campbell-Farrell (26)

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Big one for us. Based on our effort last week, this absolutely looms as a winnable game. But I also expect Port to come out firing today. They're under pressure to show something after last week.

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Sportsbet Odds

Port 1.68

Frankston 2.15

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UpTheDolphins
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Great win by the Dolphins today. Better side all day, would have put them away earlier if not for some shocking accuracy. Hope that gets fixed, but the overall performance was great.

Wally from Will...
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Whoahhh, big win for the Dolphins at North Port, well done - Port's season not going to plan it would be fair to say 

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Frankston’s first win vs Port Melbourne at North Port Oval since 20 2006 - 6426 days ago

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As Robbo said, haven't won a game at Port Melbourne since 2006. Came awfully close in 2022 before choking in the 4th quarter. 

Inaccuracy aside, we were the better side all day. Anyone who thought Frankston would be an easy beat this year will be rethinking things after today.

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That's great a few of the stand-alones like Frankston and Coburg appear a bit stronger this year and are more than competitive 

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Nice win by Frankston and as UTD says they outplayed a sloppy Port all day. Game should have been done and dusted at half time. 25 point margin a little flattering for Port. 31 scoring shots to 16 says it all.  

Dolphins certainly better structured this year and playing more direct to a stacked forward line. I can't remember Frankston ever having so many potent scoring options. Gown, Johnson, Butland (superb yesterday with 5 goals) and Newnes, and there's also the option of playing O'Leary closer to goal. All of those guys are enormous kicks and can kick 50 metre goals with ease.  Hopefully Gown's injury is not too bad - the fact that he played out most of the game is a positive. Really important for Frankston to have him out there.

Probably still a little thin in the backline. Of all the talent that left the club last year they are probably missing Stoddart the most, taking the intercept marks across half back and his pin point accuracy kicking. 

Port looked pretty ordinary. Skill level is not high and a couple of players looked a little casual to me. That's a worry. Lets hope they can get it together. Anyone know how long Skrobolak has left on his contract?

MegaA
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Skrobolak has only this year to go, I believe it was 2 years initially and then renewed last season. Apologised to the Port melbourne fans after the game and said he took full responsibility which some Port fans appreciated. Unfortunately though that doesn't change the fact that the fans feel like their huge optimism is dwindling and can't take many or any positives from the last two weeks. 

 

I said it last week, Frankston are better than what many and even.their own fans give them credit for, Port are ok but only that. Doubtful we will able to recruit to the calibre of this season every year, if we can't win consistently with the side we have unfortunately we're going to have a tough future.

Anybody have Doc Browns phone number ? Want to fast forward to 2025 (before visiting 2011 first).

Off field many positives to take, Port has moved to another level and put on a great show infront of a very healthy predominantly borough crowd. The queuing issues I'm sure will be addressed. Hopefully success where it matters most isn't too far away.

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Well, happy happy days at Kars Street :)

Well summed up Bearsman. The forward line was terrific yesterday in spite of the seemingly ordinary conversion rate. Took our boys a while to learn to square the ball up inside 50, particularly into the wind where we dominated Port in the first quarter. Let them off the hook and gave them a chance to play themselves into the game. At 2.9 I was concerned, but we learned the lessons and were much more direct in the second half.

In particular it was great to see Butland have a day out, he's a terrific mid-sized forward and has struggled in pre-season to find a good fit next to Gown, but yesterday he got back to presenting from the front instead of stagnating in a pocket and wow what a difference. 5.1 was a great return, and I believe he is only gonna get better. It does look potent up there, with Gown as a big target, freeing up a lot of room for Butland, Johnson, Newnes etc. O'Leary could fit in there in a pinch, but he seems to be relishing playing up the ground more and was just about best on ground in my opinion.

Backline is definitely not quite structured right at the moment. I personally would get Max Williams playing deep again, but right now it's hard to question Jackson Kornberg's methods at all. Barlow still looks a bit shaky as a key defender, but yesterday to his credit he rebounded beautifully across half back for us. Ollie Moran looks a great fit, and I think is only going to get better. It does look a fairly inexperienced group down back though, so we will have to have faith that they're gonna develop in time.

Fantastic to have a win on the board though, with some people thinking we'd struggle against everyone but Coburg and the Bullants. Things are only gonna get better for this group, mark my words.

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You weren't far away from where we were sitting, boundary level near the scoreboard. Our plan was to head for the grandstand but couldn't get a parking spot on that side.

As rapt as I am with yesterday's win, I am keeping my expectations modest for this year. Yes we've started well, but the past couple years have seen good Frankston teams fail to turn up and get beaten in games we should have won. 2022 was particularly infuriating with upset losses to Coburg and Port. Last year we also had issues of simply not competing for an entire quarter which cost us winnable games. So after those years I'm perhaps a little wary. Just hope the boys remember to bring that energy to every single game. Yesterday we let Port back into the game at times through some individual errors so hopefully it's a learning experience. 

Was also happy to see a big crowd at Port yesterday after hearing stories of low attendance last year. Some healthy opposition support near the grandstand but the place was packed at that end and the canteen seemed to be doing good business.

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I have waited until overnight to post my thoughts :)

Frankston - Wow.  Absolutely full credit to the club.  A very polished performance with quick movement, good skill level and backing your players to win in 50/50 contests.  Intensity and work rate were top notch.

I watched the game you played against the towners last week and thought you would really push us this week and I wasn't overly confident going into the game.

 

Port Melbourne.. Well positives are, that the club put on one of its best off-field performances, having the Easter Bunny, an Easter Egg hunt, Sausage sizzle for the Good Friday Appeal, a local school band playing and a good positive vibe.  The playing surface looked much improved too.  The PA speakers were nice and clear, and a far cry from the scratchy system we are used to hearing.  Also appreciated goal kickers and scores being announced, but can definitely do without the american style geeing up of the crowd.  That's un-needed and probably was the only detraction I can think of.

On field, we had no dominance in the midfield and centre clearances hurt us.  When you can't get consistent first use of the ball, then you are going to struggle.  When we did have the ball we were forced wide and shallow entries into the forward line were an ongoing problem.  I don't think its all doom and gloom, but I thought the Dolphins controlled the game nicely, also being able to slow the game down and control possession when necessary.

The weeks break for the SANFL v VFL game, should hopefully see a few injured players back into the side the following week.

Listening to the coach, I felt he was saying the right things, but perhaps the players are either not on board, or not switched on to execute the game plan.  

As with last year, my early confidence is a little shaken.  Hopefully a W will settle down the nerves.

 

Finally, the women's side again showed  that they are a very good side and capable of going back to back in 2024.  They are a well drilled and disciplined side and two games in have been deadly accurate in front of goals.  They draw a very healthy crowd and are generating a lot of excitement around the club.

Next weeks game against Williamstown down at DSV Stadium (Pt Gelibrand) is currently 1st v 3rd and should be a great game and the best test yet of where we are at.

 

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I do think Port will improve with time. They've had two very difficult matchups to start the season - Southport away and then a Frankston team that - while raw - is playing a very fast and clean style. It'll be interesting to see how our next clash goes when we host you guys down there. 

Off-field, the atmosphere at Port yesterday was top notch as always. Place looked packed on the grandstand side and there was a healthy crowd on our end too, loved the more retro-sounding club song as the players ran out as opposed to the identical Demons song. Having a ground announcer is something I hope Frankston will do in the future. Not having one is a missed opportunity for building atmosphere, advertising upcoming events, or even giving sponsors or local clubs a plug. Good to see the club organising events for Good Friday and getting the kids involved. Another thing I'd like to see Frankston do more of. 

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NorthPort, your club definitely deserve credit for the match day experience. Thought the ground announcer was excellent, but agree with you that the cheerleading probably was a bit ill-thought. I reckon that motivated our blokes more than yours. Great to see Port involving the local school, and letting supporters know what is happening at the club. We need to take that on at all our clubs. No matter what our demographic is, if we can't connect to our locals then what are we doing it for?

On-field, I thought you were outdone for desire - pretty much as simple as that. Do you think the confidence was down a bit after the loss at Southport? You would hope not, most teams are gonna cop a hiding up there this season. In patches your ball movement was impressive, but Anastasio can't always be the catalyst for your momentum like he was yesterday.

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What did you guys think of our new white 'away jumper?' I thought it looked great. I never really like the insipid grey used in previous years - the red is ok, but definitely white for me. Seemed to make the Frankston boys look bigger to me..

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UpTheDolphins
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Generally not a fan of all white clash jumpers. I think they often look quite bland. But the white one does have a much cleaner look than that grey one we've been wearing for the past few years.

Still, if it were me I would have picked red with white and black strips on the side.

MegaA
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My 2 cents worth, didn't mind the ground announcer trying to get the crowd going but don't tell us to cheer when 6 goals down, a definite loss and we score a goal. People are deflated and are not going to give a cheer when they know they are definitely losing by a margin. 

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