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Question marks ?? and guess work ??whatever and where ever you look. Vfl what other sides will go ? Will Preston somehow come back ? Will the vfl season commence in 2020 ? What will 2021 look like ? Will there be a 2021 vfl ? Then there is the every day life. What pubs will cease ? What restaurants and coffee places will close for good ? How long will it take Melbourne to recover? Have we seen the start of a different world? At the moment I can't watch vfl, afl, local footy, nrl, sit down and have a coffee, go to a restaurant, have a beer at a pub, have a bet at the local tab, go to the races. Thank god i can still go to work and am one of the lucky ones. I go to work and i am home all other times until things get back to normal. Back to the vfl the one thing that could save the vfl clubs is too hard and too costly for afl to run their own reserves. Can you honestly see gws and gold coast part of it. Would hawthorn play at box hill if they gave box hill the flick. Where would Melbourne play without Casey? How on earth can Carlton afford a reserves team ? Will they pay full licence fee? I just hope we have a Willy, port, Frankston, coburg and werribee to cheer this year and beyond. Sandy, box hill and Springvale-casey much tougher but hope they can last the journey.

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If the vfl season does go ahead and that is a very big if I would say the old vfa clubs will be hard to beat. With no Richmond and Footscray in 2020 plus box hill a standalone makes things easier. You also got afl clubs worried  about costs so could easily shed some bottom list players. Vfl clubs a bit more stable. Werribee clearly favourites. The way things look vfl season is 10% chance of starting in 2020. Stage 3 in coronavirus starts today.


I dont think the VFL as it was will ever return.

The AFL clubs if they only have lists of 35 from 2021 wont need a reserves team so I expect all the aligned clubs to be cut loose and have to fend for themselves.

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Melbourne will retain its affiliation with VFL club Casey as AFL braces for talent overhaul

Jon Ralph, Herald Sun

March 31, 2020 7:56am

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Melbourne will retain its affiliation with VFL club Casey as clubs brace for an overhaul to reduce costs.

The Demons have enjoyed a productive link with Casey and have no plans to sever it despite Carlton ditching the Northern Blues as its VFL partner last week.

Carlton saw that as a significant cost saving, given it paid coach Josh Fraser and a Northern Blues general manager but the Demons and Hawthorn plan to keep their VFL affiliates.

If list sizes are cut to 35 next year — and potentially 30 by 2022 — clubs would need somewhere for top-up players to play in anticipation of adding them to the list during the season.

That would ideally be an affiliate club at which players could share the same coaching as the AFL team.



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Melbourne’s link to Casey goes deeper than the VFL team. It is 10 years into a 30-year agreement with the council and trains at the Casey Fields precinct.

Clubs are bracing for the league to review all its pathways, including club academies, Irish recruits, Category B rookies and the state-league systems.

A regularly proposed 18-club second-tier competition involving all AFL clubs or even a revamped NEAFL competition would involve more travel and be expensive.

Port Adelaide fears for the future of its SANFL club, and stand-alone VFL clubs hope the AFL does not turn the VFL into a 10-club competition with only AFL reserves teams involved.

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Former Port Melbourne and North Melbourne footballer David King called on the AFL to preserve the history of old VFA-VFL clubs after Preston went out of business after 138 rich years.

Melbourne will not abandon plans to expand its facility, which will house all its staff in one building, but right now it’s in “survival mode” to help its staff.

Like Collingwood, the Dees are trying to pay a portion of staff salaries in the coming months. Some staff are working one or two days a week.


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Melbourne bosses Gary Pert and Glenn Bartlett made clear the club’s plans to support its staff in an open letter at the weekend.

“We have put several wellbeing programs in place, and our club psychologists and doctors are working with our administration staff and coaches to help us all through this difficult period,” they wrote.

“Financially, we are supporting our people where we can, through a combination of annual leave and other leave measures. While this does not completely alleviate the difficult decisions that have had to be made, it will still ensure staff receive some financial support during this time.”

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You are probably right Billy. If AFL lists are slashed to 35 then probably seen the last of the current VFL. If that is the case don't expect an AFL reserves comp anytime soon as AFL and its clubs cannot afford that. The AFL players who don't get a game will play elsewhere whether it is a revamped VFA comp who knows.


With this morning's announcement that the state of emergency has been extended to May 11 and likely to go beyond that. Almost certain no state league or local footy will be played in 2020. I understand they would need to start by last weekend in June to get a season (of sorts) in.

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May 11 is the day with the extended 4 weeks. The vfl could possibly start in early June, any later the odds of playing will triple. Not sure about local footy either. The vafa are more likely as they could easily have a 12 week season even 10 if need to plus finals of course. If all of a sudden things go pear shaped with the coronavirus you can forget about any footy for 2020 as the extended 4 weeks can easily turn out to 4 or 6 months. Fingers crossed the virus will slow to a walk and we can all get back to the things we like. Very eery going to work with hardly a soul on the train and in town. Still I would rather be in Melbourne than any place in the world right now. 


Yes vfa Melbourne/Victoria have the best figures of the bigger States thanks to Daniel Andrews strong leadership and lets hope it continues so we can get back to some sort of normal life inc the footy sooner rather than later.

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After seeing Dangerous Dan on TV last night I wouldnt be very hopeful of footy starting anytime soon. Another 4 weeks of lockdown with the possibility of extending it after that and when he was asked when footy will resume he was very guarded saying something like it wont be anytime soon.



I didnt say soon the VFL may not get back at all but hopefully the AFL will at some stage maybe later this year!

I would rather be safe than sorry later on by going too early.Football is a very small matter in the scheme of things right now.