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AFL club chiefs back push for new 14-team reserves competition

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl-club-chiefs-back-push-for-new-14-tea...

AFL club chiefs back push for new 14-team reserves competition

Momentum is building towards the creation of a new 14-team AFL eastern seaboard reserves competition that would potentially replace the VFL and NEAFL, according to club chiefs.

A new league tying the four clubs in Queensland and New South Wales with the 10 Victorian clubs that would serve as a reserves development competition was shaping as a viable alternative to the problems of the existing second-tier format, according to Swans chief executive Tom Harley.

This 14-team eastern seaboard option would have the Brisbane Lions and Gold Coast Suns play one another more often than the other teams, and likewise GWS and the Swans would play each other more regularly than they would play other teams, in order to maximise cost-savings.

The effect of this unequal fixturing would mean the competition would be structured as a development league and not focused on producing a premiership-winning reserves team.

With a return to play established, the focus has switched to urgent decisions needed on the size of the salary cap, the size and structure of playing lists, draft picks as well as the soft cap on football spending and the second tier competition.

“There is a whole cascading list of pieces of work that are interconnected and need to be done pretty quickly,” Harley said.

“You need to establish the list size before knowing the salary cap and the second tier competition the soft cap, each decision is interconnected and has a cascading effect.

“We are in June and the end of the football year is October so these are critical issues that need to be considered pretty quickly as we begin trying to draft budge 

“The idea of an eastern seaboard AFL reserves competition is gaining momentum.

“The concept is to develop a culture of winning and competing. If it’s a 14-team competition and we play GWS more often and Gold Coast and Brisbane play each other more often it distorts the fixturing and the integrity of the fixture. The key issues to address are how to develop players and will it be affordable?

“You would have to change the focus of the league to being about development of players and feeding the AFL competition.”

Gold Coast CEO Mark Evans agreed saying critical work needed to be done before a definitive decision could be made on the second tier.

“You need to establish the list size before knowing the salary cap and the second tier competition the soft cap, each decision is interconnected and has a cascading effect.

“We are in June and the end of the football year is October so these are critical issues that need to be considered pretty quickly as we begin trying to draft budgets 

“The idea of an eastern seaboard AFL reserves competition is gaining momentum.

“The concept is to develop a culture of winning and competing. If it’s a 14-team competition and we play GWS more often and Gold Coast and Brisbane play each other more often it distorts the fixturing and the integrity of the fixture. The key issues to address are how to develop players and will it be affordable?

“You would have to change the focus of the league to being about development of players and feeding the AFL competition.”

Gold Coast CEO Mark Evans agreed saying critical work needed to be done before a definitive decision could be made on the second tier.

“Certainly it’s possible the four teams could join an eastern seaboard reserves competition,” Evans said.

“We need to make sure the lists of the (four northern states) clubs have the same opportunity to be strong as the Victorian lists do.

“What do we want from a league? Is it for state league clubs to chase a premiership with older players through the system? Or a development league that caters for future draft prospects who miss out because of smaller lists and fewer players taken at the drafts, and gives reserves players at AFL clubs a chance at senior footy?

“If it was billed as a development league then it would make more sense for us (in Queensland and NSW) to play each other more regularly.”

Brisbane CEO Greg Swann also raised the idea of a 14-team Eastern Seaboard reserves competition as a viable proposition in a Fox Footy interview on Saturday.

Robbo

All 5 VFL Standalone clubs now in danger of folding if this decision goes through.

Not only do AFL need to let people know about a 2020 season ASAP now the fact that Port Melbourne, Werribee, Williamstown, Frankston and Coburg now all danger of folding under this proposal

This is a very conserning development?

billythekid

They might fold as "VFL" clubs but what is stopping them from playing in other local leagues?

Same goes for Sandringham.Coburg and Casey or they could invite 2 other clubs to join them and bring back the VFA name.That is the trouble when you sell your soul to a compeditor.

As they say you lie down with Lions you eventually get eaten!

vfa
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That won't happen. No chance of reserves. What happens to Port, West Coast, Freo and Adelaide ?
What happens to the SANFL and WAFL ?

Robbo

VFA

SANFL and WAFL not affected by this 

next years Crows, Port will be back in SANFL and Eagles will be back in WAFL

 

this has effectively come about because the NEAFL has effectively been disbanded and Northern AFL reserves teams need a place to play 

vfa
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Time for the 5 stand alone VFA clubs and include Casey, Sandy and Box Hill and go it alone permanently.
Nothing stops them. Not the Arrogant Football League. Maybe a call to Peter V'Landys might help ?
The AFL can't stop them if they want to recreate the VFA. Start with the eight teams and gradually bring in some of the strong suburban and country teams.

vfa
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Well the Brisbane Lions have put interest in joining the VFL.

Robbo

I think you find that can't happen because there would be no funding from AFL. Can't run a comp without money.

vfa
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Did you read this article Robbo.
More likely to be part of the VFL not an AFL full on reserves as that would be not viable
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Brisbane are pushing to be included in an expanded VFL competition from 2021 as a cloud hangs over the future of the NEAFL.
Gold Coast, GWS Giants and the Sydney Swans have played alongside Brisbane in the combined New South Wales and Queensland second-tier competition since 2011 but northern clubs are searching for alternatives with the competition not expected to return next year.
Brisbane chief executive Greg Swann confirmed the club was “pushing” to be included in the VFL or some form of AFL reserves league in 2021.
"At the moment, the NEAFL doesn't look like it's going to come back," Swann told Fox Footy Live on Saturday.
"All the northern state clubs need somewhere to play so we've been pushing to perhaps join with the VFL, or an AFL reserves, or an eastern-seaboard AFL reserves.
"If 10 teams in Melbourne run a comp then us four would probably join it, or that's what we've been pushing to do."
Swann said the Lions would be prepared to be flexible to save costs of running any form of reserves matches into the future.
"There is a comp, but it's more about getting games into the players who aren't playing," Swann said.
"If we had to play the Suns four times to reduce costs, and GWS played Sydney four times, then no one has a real problem with that."

vfa
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How are they going to fund an AFL reserves as that would cost far more

Robbo

The article mentions 10 clubs 

which would be the AFL standalone and aligned clubs and not 5 vfl standalone clubs.

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