My 2 cents, pre season stand alone carnival is a great idea with perhaps moving it from stand alone venue each year (I know that isn't possible with all clubs due to cricket commitments). It helps raise a small amount of money towards the hosting club and further strengthens the relationship between the old vfa clubs.
Reading the above sentiment I feel Port is in a similar position, they have indeed recruited well but feel that perhaps the club is overselling the recruits they have made... e.g. a swans recruit who played no first team games was sold as a Swans AFL recruit, theirs definitely a few more examples. Some fans I feel may be getting overly optimistic but I feel as of today we are not finals material. This may be especially evident when considering that Naismith, Gasper, Clarke, Phillips have all gone. Whilst the replacements one could argue are very good at this stage they don't exceed our losses.
Sorry for hijacking your thread, being darkish and (politically incorrect) I can say a hijacking was coming.. feel free to move to the Port Melbourne thread if you want Northport.
17 PREMIERSHIPS, 19 X Runners up
THE VFLS MOST SUCCESSFUL CLUB - THE MIGHTY PORT MELBOURNE BOROUGH!
I'M PORT MELBURNE BORN, I'M PORT MELBOURNE BRED, I'LL BE PORT UNTIL I'M DEAD!!!
Rotating the carnival between standalone clubs (assuming they can make arrangements to host it) is a great idea and a good opportunity to give the standalone clubs some needed promotion.
I'm certainly not expecting finals next year either. Between the players we've lost and having a new coach and system in place, I'm accepting that we won't see success straight away. But player retention and building a strong culture are priorities for the club and I'm cautiously optimistic we're laying the foundation for that. I still think we need to get out of the bottom four and finish with 6-7 wins. We need to show some upward momentum in order to attract both players and supporters.
Our new CEO and coach are both pretty impressive characters thus far. Jackson Kornberg has seemed to connect to the players seamlessly and quickly, while Fraser Bayne seems a real go-getter off the field. We have recruits, but no big names. Yes, we have lost quite a few important players from last season. We face yet another season of rebuilding. Hopefully the group connect well and most importantly, stick together beyond this season.
This ever-present changing of direction at Frankston has to stop if we are going to have a future. The club wants people to buy memberships,,,,,,well the desire to buy a membership comes from feeling a connection to the club - can't feel much of that when players, coaches and administrators seem to change on at least a bi-yearly basis.
I firmly believe that we have the right people to lead the club to success. It seems our coach wants to recruit players interested in playing for the club, rather than just using us as a stepping stone to the AFL. That's good news, because history tells us that those blokes give us a year or two then vanish, whether they reach their goal or not.
Pre-season training has been impressive so far. Looks like about 55 out there on the track at the moment.
The personnel changes so far do have me optimistic. From what I've seen at training, Jackson Kornberg seems to get along very well with the players while also being firm and direct when required. Being of a similar age to some of these guys while also having a long history in coaching probably helps him in that area. Fraser is probably the perfect person to lead the club if building community and connection at priority. He's always at the members' drinks nights, often shows up at training sessions, overall a very approachable guy. No doubt we have the right people leading the club.
Next year will certainly be another rebuild of sorts. I'm hoping that with the players we've retained we will remain competitive and get ourselves out of the bottom four, but with the players we've lost and significant overhaul of our coaching staff I accept that it will take time for everything to click. And that's the key for the next few years; committing to this direction and keeping these people together long enough to see the end product.
One positive note, I've seen Max Williams at just about every training session I've been to these past few weeks. I haven't put his name under the re-signed list yet because I haven't seen anything official but you'd think his intention's to stay if he's still coming to training.
Email to members went out today confirming that the pre-season carnival will be held at Kinetic Stadium on Saturday, March 2nd 2024. No word on fixtures yet.
Here's what I've been able to find on our new recruits listed here:
Nick Burke: Formerly played for Haileybury College and Sandringham Dragons, made his VFL debut for Geelong in 2021, played for Port Melbourne in 2022/23. Listed on Port's recruitment post as a forward/mid.
Taj Campbell-Farrell: Played for Dandenong Stingrays, won the Morrish Medal in 2022. Suffered compartment syndrome in his feet but played through a large chunk of the season before undergoing treatment. Played for Williamstown in 2023. Predominantly plays in the midfield from what I've read and was apparently a ball magnet at Dangenong.
Will Kennedy: Formerly played for Sandringham Dragons and Caulfield Grammarian. Primarily played in defence, but has experience as a forward and ruckman. Draft profile highlights his strong mobility despite his size (198cm). I'm personally keen to see what he can do; with Nic Minchin gone we need ruck options and I'll be happy to have another defender, especially if we lose Max Williams.
Matt Nelson: Has been around a few clubs, from Berwick Springs to Noble Park to Dandenong Stingrays. Can't find much on him, but he seems to have played mainly as a winger and half back.
My 2 cents, pre season stand alone carnival is a great idea with perhaps moving it from stand alone venue each year (I know that isn't possible with all clubs due to cricket commitments). It helps raise a small amount of money towards the hosting club and further strengthens the relationship between the old vfa clubs.
Reading the above sentiment I feel Port is in a similar position, they have indeed recruited well but feel that perhaps the club is overselling the recruits they have made... e.g. a swans recruit who played no first team games was sold as a Swans AFL recruit, theirs definitely a few more examples. Some fans I feel may be getting overly optimistic but I feel as of today we are not finals material. This may be especially evident when considering that Naismith, Gasper, Clarke, Phillips have all gone. Whilst the replacements one could argue are very good at this stage they don't exceed our losses.
Sorry for hijacking your thread, being darkish and (politically incorrect) I can say a hijacking was coming.. feel free to move to the Port Melbourne thread if you want Northport.
17 PREMIERSHIPS, 19 X Runners up
THE VFLS MOST SUCCESSFUL CLUB - THE MIGHTY PORT MELBOURNE BOROUGH!
I'M PORT MELBURNE BORN, I'M PORT MELBOURNE BRED, I'LL BE PORT UNTIL I'M DEAD!!!
Rotating the carnival between standalone clubs (assuming they can make arrangements to host it) is a great idea and a good opportunity to give the standalone clubs some needed promotion.
I'm certainly not expecting finals next year either. Between the players we've lost and having a new coach and system in place, I'm accepting that we won't see success straight away. But player retention and building a strong culture are priorities for the club and I'm cautiously optimistic we're laying the foundation for that. I still think we need to get out of the bottom four and finish with 6-7 wins. We need to show some upward momentum in order to attract both players and supporters.
Our new CEO and coach are both pretty impressive characters thus far. Jackson Kornberg has seemed to connect to the players seamlessly and quickly, while Fraser Bayne seems a real go-getter off the field. We have recruits, but no big names. Yes, we have lost quite a few important players from last season. We face yet another season of rebuilding. Hopefully the group connect well and most importantly, stick together beyond this season.
This ever-present changing of direction at Frankston has to stop if we are going to have a future. The club wants people to buy memberships,,,,,,well the desire to buy a membership comes from feeling a connection to the club - can't feel much of that when players, coaches and administrators seem to change on at least a bi-yearly basis.
I firmly believe that we have the right people to lead the club to success. It seems our coach wants to recruit players interested in playing for the club, rather than just using us as a stepping stone to the AFL. That's good news, because history tells us that those blokes give us a year or two then vanish, whether they reach their goal or not.
Pre-season training has been impressive so far. Looks like about 55 out there on the track at the moment.
The personnel changes so far do have me optimistic. From what I've seen at training, Jackson Kornberg seems to get along very well with the players while also being firm and direct when required. Being of a similar age to some of these guys while also having a long history in coaching probably helps him in that area. Fraser is probably the perfect person to lead the club if building community and connection at priority. He's always at the members' drinks nights, often shows up at training sessions, overall a very approachable guy. No doubt we have the right people leading the club.
Next year will certainly be another rebuild of sorts. I'm hoping that with the players we've retained we will remain competitive and get ourselves out of the bottom four, but with the players we've lost and significant overhaul of our coaching staff I accept that it will take time for everything to click. And that's the key for the next few years; committing to this direction and keeping these people together long enough to see the end product.
One positive note, I've seen Max Williams at just about every training session I've been to these past few weeks. I haven't put his name under the re-signed list yet because I haven't seen anything official but you'd think his intention's to stay if he's still coming to training.
Blake O'Leary, Lachie Riley, and Angus Grant have re-signed for Frankston. Just announced on the club's Facebook page.
Looks like Frankston are becoming a home for not wanted Sandringham Zebras/Dragons players.
Email to members went out today confirming that the pre-season carnival will be held at Kinetic Stadium on Saturday, March 2nd 2024. No word on fixtures yet.
Full lists of the ins and outs for each VFL team can be found here.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1072891/2024-list-update-smithys-vfl
Here's what I've been able to find on our new recruits listed here:
Nick Burke: Formerly played for Haileybury College and Sandringham Dragons, made his VFL debut for Geelong in 2021, played for Port Melbourne in 2022/23. Listed on Port's recruitment post as a forward/mid.
Taj Campbell-Farrell: Played for Dandenong Stingrays, won the Morrish Medal in 2022. Suffered compartment syndrome in his feet but played through a large chunk of the season before undergoing treatment. Played for Williamstown in 2023. Predominantly plays in the midfield from what I've read and was apparently a ball magnet at Dangenong.
Will Kennedy: Formerly played for Sandringham Dragons and Caulfield Grammarian. Primarily played in defence, but has experience as a forward and ruckman. Draft profile highlights his strong mobility despite his size (198cm). I'm personally keen to see what he can do; with Nic Minchin gone we need ruck options and I'll be happy to have another defender, especially if we lose Max Williams.
Matt Nelson: Has been around a few clubs, from Berwick Springs to Noble Park to Dandenong Stingrays. Can't find much on him, but he seems to have played mainly as a winger and half back.
Taj Campbell-Farrell was on our list but never played a game for Willi - not sure what his home team/club was in 2023
In addition to formally announced Matt Nelson, Frankston have also recruited Cheltenham premiership player Ollie Moran.
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